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  • Airfork ???

    I Know that airforks off an 81 Venturer will fit onto a 79F but will airforks off an 82 XJ fit onto the 79F
    1980 XS650G Special-Two
    1993 Honda ST1100

  • #2
    Ben, no they won't without some extensive modification. I don't know why you are looking to convert to air assist, it's not all it's cracked up to be. Your forks could be converted to air assist by changing the caps.
    2H7 (79) owned since '89
    3H3 owned since '06

    "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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    • #3
      Hi Ben,
      As a many decade Venturer owner, the last five yrs. I use absolutely no air in its front forks, loaded down or empty. Since from factory, having progressive springs already I opted for 15w fork oil to compensate for dampening orfices enlargement from friction over the decades. Has made for a nice ride if having to spend a few hours at a time in the saddle.
      81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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      • #4
        Thanks guys..looks like I should go the way Marty has been advocating for years...Traxxion Dynamics and Gold emulators...I already have progressive springs with 15w oil ...still dont like how the front end dives under braking...
        1980 XS650G Special-Two
        1993 Honda ST1100

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        • #5
          If you want to take the cheapo route, cut a couple of spacers out of 3/4" PVC pipe an inch long and add them on top of the springs. That should lessen the diving considerably and will cost next to nothing. The fork oil level can also be raised to limit diving. Bring it over to my place and I'll do it for you no charge.
          Last edited by bikerphil; 04-04-2015, 03:58 PM.
          2H7 (79) owned since '89
          3H3 owned since '06

          "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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          • #6
            Marty has expressed that you can waste lots of money to find the right combo. He did say best results for $ was to send your forks to the company for the best upgrade. This would be for someone with limitless funds as the cost will still be great, more than $500, less than $1000.
            RIDE IT LIKE YOU JUST STOLE IT !!!!!
            76 XS650 C ROADSTER
            80 XS650 G Special II
            https://ibb.co/album/icbGgF
            80 XS 1100 SG
            81 XS 1100LH/SH DARKHORSE
            https://tinyurl.com/k6nzvtw
            AKA; Don'e, UD, Unca Don'e

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            • #7
              Traxxion Dynamics

              You can take/send your forks to Traxxion Dynamics. You will get custom springs from them as well as revalving of the forks. They sometimes use 2 different weight oils - one in each fork. You will no longer use the fork air pressure feature - if so equipped.

              Their fork reprogramming works wonders for the XS11's handling and steering. They do lots of bikes - HD, Gold Wings, Triumph, etc. All factory bikes (new and old) have a "generic" suspension setup. TD will remove "generic" from your ride. You will be very impressed with their suspension program specific to your bike. You will also have to get in line to have this done, but not too long.

              The many racing bikes that use the TD suspension packages win a lot of races. You will get your money's worth - Nough said.
              Last edited by MPittma100; 04-04-2015, 04:50 PM.
              1981 XS1100H Venturer
              K&N Air Filter
              ACCT
              Custom Paint by Deitz
              Geezer Rectifier/Regulator
              Chacal Stainless Steel Braided Brake Lines
              Chrome Front Rotor & Caliper Covers
              Stebel Nautilus Horn
              EBC Front Rotors
              Limie Accent Moves On In 2015

              Mike

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              • #8
                Originally posted by bikerphil View Post
                If you want to take the cheapo route, cut a couple of spacers out of 3/4" PVC pipe an inch long and add them on top of the springs. That should lessen the diving considerably and will cost next to nothing. The fork oil level can also be raised to limit diving. Bring it over to my place and I'll do it for you no charge.
                This works better than you might think. I'd try this before spending big $$$ for a possible minimal improvement over this....
                Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

                '78E original owner - resto project
                '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
                '82 XJ rebuild project
                '80SG restified, red SOLD
                '79F parts...
                '81H more parts...

                Other current bikes:
                '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
                '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
                '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
                Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
                Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by bikerphil View Post
                  If you want to take the cheapo route, cut a couple of spacers out of 3/4" PVC pipe an inch long and add them on top of the springs. That should lessen the diving considerably and will cost next to nothing. The fork oil level can also be raised to limit diving. Bring it over to my place and I'll do it for you no charge.
                  Ha ha Thanks Phil...I'll be down next week...
                  1980 XS650G Special-Two
                  1993 Honda ST1100

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                  • #10
                    Limitless Funds

                    Originally posted by donebysunday View Post
                    Marty has expressed that you can waste lots of money to find the right combo. He did say best results for $ was to send your forks to the company for the best upgrade. This would be for someone with limitless funds as the cost will still be great, more than $500, less than $1000.RIDE IT LIKE YOU JUST STOLE IT !!!!!
                    Simply add that to the price of the bike when you sell it. Get your enjoyment out of it in the mean time.
                    1981 XS1100H Venturer
                    K&N Air Filter
                    ACCT
                    Custom Paint by Deitz
                    Geezer Rectifier/Regulator
                    Chacal Stainless Steel Braided Brake Lines
                    Chrome Front Rotor & Caliper Covers
                    Stebel Nautilus Horn
                    EBC Front Rotors
                    Limie Accent Moves On In 2015

                    Mike

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                    • #11
                      Ben,

                      Put oil in the forks until the level is 130 mm from the top with the springs out. If it still dives too much, add more fluid. Not less than 110 mm air space is recommended. That gives you a 20 mm tuning range. It won't fix it, but it will make it better. Remember, your springs are dual range, one size fits all. The soft portion of the spring is going to collapse very quickly.

                      If you can afford it, the Traxxion Dynamics solution is worthwhile. If you do it yourself, I can help you avoid the errors that I made. The progressive wound spring won't play well with emulators. I have a friend who did that with an XS650 cafe racer. The performance was less than stellar.
                      Marty (in Mississippi)
                      XS1100SG
                      XS650SK
                      XS650SH
                      XS650G
                      XS6502F
                      XS650E

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by madmax-im View Post
                        Ha ha Thanks Phil...I'll be down next week...
                        Ben, maybe you could get Mark to help you, he's a bit closer.
                        2H7 (79) owned since '89
                        3H3 owned since '06

                        "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by bikerphil View Post
                          Ben, maybe you could get Mark to help you, he's a bit closer.
                          Joking Phil...
                          I was just over there today working on the XJ rear shocks...I will certainly get some 3/4" PVC and put it in there...Thanks
                          1980 XS650G Special-Two
                          1993 Honda ST1100

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                          • #14
                            Marty I totally get it...I'm no longer convinced airforks will serve my purpose...for the interim adding more fork oil and some PVC will be the way to go...
                            1980 XS650G Special-Two
                            1993 Honda ST1100

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