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  • #16
    It lives!!! There's was definitely no gas getting to the cylinders

    The vacuum advance hose was pinched around the boot going to the block from the carbs. I wanted to once over everything again because it was definitely a gas problem

    IT LIVES!!
    80 LG

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    • #17
      Good to hear that you got it started.

      What was causing no fuel to get to the cylinders?
      Ty

      78 XS1100E - Now in Minnesota
      80 XS1100LG - The Punisher
      82 XJ1100 - Current project - The Twins
      82 XJ1100 - Wife's Bike - The Twins
      82 XJ1100 - Daughter's Bike
      72 Suzuki TS125 - Daughter's Bike
      72 Yamaha Mini JT2 - Youngest Daughter's bike (She wants a bigger one now)

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      • #18
        Originally posted by tcoop View Post
        Good to hear that you got it started.

        What was causing no fuel to get to the cylinders?
        Maybe had the petcocks in OFF position.
        81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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        • #19
          Dielectric grease

          suggestion I made was a bit premature. As it turns out is has probably caused more problems then good. The deoxit suggestion still stands as it is an excellent deoxidizer/cleaner.
          2 - 80 LGs bought one new
          81 LH
          02 FXSTB Nighttrain
          22 FLTRK Road Glide Limited
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          • #20
            It was the timing advance hose. It was clogged or not on properly or something. I sprayed the tube it goes on and inside the hose with electrical cleaner. It fired right up after that
            80 LG

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            • #21
              Did you clean out just the hose? Contact cleaner might not be good for the vacuum actuator. That's an old diaphragm inside it.
              Marty (in Mississippi)
              XS1100SG
              XS650SK
              XS650SH
              XS650G
              XS6502F
              XS650E

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              • #22
                He said he sprayed it into the tube it connects to also, I'm thinking he primed that #2 cylinder with the cleaner and it fired off.
                Greg

                Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                ― Albert Einstein

                80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                The list changes.

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                • #23
                  I sprayed both so I can't say what fixed it. Every since then it's fired up every time and with the tune up(plugs, battery, carbs cleaned) it runs better than ever. I also found a gas station that sells no-ethanol gas
                  80 LG

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                  • #24
                    Phil During use, and especially on overcharge, the water in the electrolyte splits into hydrogen and oxygen. The battery begins to gas, which results in water loss not gain , unless I missed the memo "splain Loosy
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                    • #25
                      Well Jim,
                      I will not argue the science. I was told when I bought an electric fork truck....which has a much bigger battery to only ADD water to a FULLY charged battery as the level would rise during the charging process.
                      Not letting the level drop below minimum is the secret to longer battery life.
                      Phil
                      1981 XS1100 H Venturer ( Addie)
                      1983 XJ 650 Maxim
                      2004 Kawasaki Concours. ( Black Bear)

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                      • #26
                        Hey Phil,

                        No arguments intended. Lead acid batteries electrolyte is Sulfuric ACID, sulfur in a water solvent/solution. The acid combines with the lead plates to generate the electricity, and slowly dilutes the acid. Charging the battery reverses the sulfur/lead chemical reaction and puts Sulfur back into suspension in the water. But as stated, during charging...once all of the sulfur has been reversed back into solution...then the charging current doesn't have any more work to do...so then it begins performing electrolysis on the water molecules in the Sulfuric acid solution breaking the Hydrogen/Oxygen bonds, and releases them as gases while evaporating the water in the sulfuric acid solution which makes it MORE concentrated. SO....you then just add WATER to bring the fluid levels back up to keep the plates covered, and to replace the WATER that was evaporated/gased out...the Sulfur level is still there.

                        Good chargers STOP charging when maximum voltage/charging levels are reached, but faulty/cheap chargers as well as broken voltage regulators can allow too much charging which can cause the outgassing and loss of water, along with just normal evaporation.

                        T.C.
                        T. C. Gresham
                        81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
                        79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
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                        • #27
                          Hi TC,
                          A little research on the web shows I am not the only one to suggest not overfilling a low battery. This article does not explain the science behind their statement.
                          Watering

                          Watering is the single most important step in maintaining a flooded lead acid battery, a requirement that is all to often neglected. The frequency of watering depends on usage, charge method and operating temperature. A new battery should be checked every few weeks to determine the watering requirement. This prevents the electrolyte from falling below the plates. Avoid exposed plates at all times, as this will sustain damage, leading to reduced capacity and lower performance.
                          Exposed plates will sustain damage, leading to reduced capacity and lower performance. If the plates are exposed, immediately fill the battery with distilled or de-ionized water to cover the plates, and then apply a charge. Do not fill to the correct level before charging as this could cause an overflow during charging. Always top up to the desired level after charging. Never add electrolyte as this upsets the specific gravity and induces rapid corrosion. Watering systems eliminate low electrolyte levels by automatically adding the right amount of water.
                          1981 XS1100 H Venturer ( Addie)
                          1983 XJ 650 Maxim
                          2004 Kawasaki Concours. ( Black Bear)

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                          • #28
                            Phil that is because charging will cause bubbling and the bubbles displace the fluids making the level rise . the excess is drained out through the overflow resulting in a lowered amount of fluid when charged
                            Seamus Ó hUrmholtaigh
                            Niimi Moozhwaagan

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                            • #29
                              to hell with battery maintainence...something i always suck at...get yourself a sealed gel battery...maintainence free and never even worry about maintaining the fluid levels ever again Plus you dont have to deal with battery acid from a leaking battery that will corrode anything on the bike it comes into contact with ...like TC said get a good battery tender that wont overcharge and you're set
                              1980 XS650G Special-Two
                              1993 Honda ST1100

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                              • #30
                                BNE is the Man .... zactly I have one in "Deja Buick" that is 6 years old always hooked up to a Battery Tender and is still going strong like a bunny
                                Seamus Ó hUrmholtaigh
                                Niimi Moozhwaagan

                                NOTICE: No trees were destroyed in the sending of this message. We do concede, however, that a significant number of electrons may have been inconvenienced.

                                Any connection between your reality and mine is purely coincidental.


                                Member of "FOXS-11" (Former Owner of XS-11)
                                and SOXS
                                2008 Nomad "Deja Buick'

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