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  • #16
    Yea, coming from all fuel injected bikes, I'll totally forget.
    '79 Yamaha XS11 SF (project)
    '11 Harley Nightster (street)
    '03 KTM 125sx (dirt)
    '03 Suzuki GSXR-600 (track)
    '73 Jawa Californian (collecting dust)

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    • #17
      PMK,

      It'll work fine with manual fuel taps but a leaky carburetor float needle/seat will fill the engine/airbox/garage/whatever with fuel so you will have to remember to turn off the taps when you shut off the engine after each and every ride and while you're crashing or dropping the bike so you don't get covered with fuel that won't stop pouring out of the carburetors.

      .
      -- Scott
      _____

      2004 ST1300A: No name... yet
      1982 XJ1100J: "Baby" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
      1980 XS1100G: "Columbo" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
      1979 XS1100SF: "Bush" W.I.P.
      1979 XS1100F: parts
      2018 Heritage Softail Classic 117 FLHCS SE: "Nanuk" It's DEAD, it's not just resting. It is an EX cycle.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by PMKXS11 View Post
        Any benefit to eliminating the vacuum operated petcocks? I had mine rebuilt and powdercoated so I'd like to keep em pretty.
        Only advantage is if they are leaking and you don't want to repair the vac diaphragm. If you recently repaired them and they work good then absolutely no advantage and I would keep them.

        Originally posted by cajun31 View Post
        that I can think of. It just seems that a lot of folks just don't care for that feature especially on the specials with the octy. I do believe that if you eliminate the vacuum feature you have to remember to turn the petcocks off or the gas floods the carbs.
        Te specials petcocks already have an off position so the mod only applies to the standard tanks. Also, it's no big deal that the petcocks leak as long as your float valves are leak tight as well. Otherwise if they are not you end if getting gas in the crank or air box. I happen to like haveing the off position and would use it no matter what if it was available. The specials have the octy and is crazy stupid complex for what it has to be...
        '79 XS11 F
        Stock except K&N

        '79 XS11 SF
        Stock, no title.

        '84 Chevy K-10 "Big Blue"
        GM 350, Muncie SM465, NP208, GM 10 Bolt with 3.42gears turnin 31x10.5 Baja Claws

        "What they do have is an implacable, unrelenting presence and movement that bespeaks massive power lurking behind paint and chrome. They don't wail like a screeching ninja, the don't rumble like a harley. They just growl like a spactic, stressed out badger waiting to rip your face off and eat your soul." Trainzz~RIP~

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        • #19
          Now with wiring the bike... What is all involved in running the xs performance coils?
          '79 Yamaha XS11 SF (project)
          '11 Harley Nightster (street)
          '03 KTM 125sx (dirt)
          '03 Suzuki GSXR-600 (track)
          '73 Jawa Californian (collecting dust)

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          • #20
            I have always

            been in the habit of turning my petcocks to the off position anyway... just a habit. I don't like to leave my float bowls full of gas so I generally switch the petcocks off when I am approaching home and let the bike burn all the gas until it dies. If I am doing a longer storage I also remove the drain bolts to completely drain them. Hate the ethanol in the gas these days.
            2 - 80 LGs bought one new
            81 LH
            02 FXSTB Nighttrain
            22 FLTRK Road Glide Limited
            Jim

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            • #21
              Originally posted by PMKXS11 View Post
              Now with wiring the bike... What is all involved in running the xs performance coils?
              What do you mean by XS performance coils?? I know XS Performance is a BRAND.....but where are you seeing/finding them??? We do NOT recommend the coils from MikesXS.net , they are chinese clone crap, they burn up internally in about a year, and they(Mikes) do not provide any kind of warranty on them compared to Accel or DynaTek!

              The TCI needs to see ~3 ohms on that grey/orange trigger wire that connects to the primary side of the coils. The early model bikes had only 1.5 ohms coils, and so they also have a 1.5 ohm ballast resistor(BR) in line for the total 3ohms needed to not burn up the TCI. The BR also lowers the input voltage to the 1.5 ohm coils while running so as not to burn them up also, but newer HiPerf 3 ohm coils want 12V all the time.

              So...your performance coils need to be 3 ohms type, not CDI 0.7 ohm type, and then you just bypass the Ballast Resistor to feed 12V full time to the coils, and the TCI will still see 3 ohms on the trigger wire and will be happy.

              T.C.
              T. C. Gresham
              81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
              79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
              History shows again and again,
              How nature points out the folly of men!

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              • #22
                https://www.mikesxs.net/product/17-6810.html

                These are the ones that I bought. Big mistake then, huh? So this one should work fine, right?

                http://accel-motorcycle.com/motorcyl...inductive.html

                I have LB05F and XB05F plug caps that I was going to use with the mike's coils, can I still run em with the Accel ones? The caps are 5k ohm resistance.
                '79 Yamaha XS11 SF (project)
                '11 Harley Nightster (street)
                '03 KTM 125sx (dirt)
                '03 Suzuki GSXR-600 (track)
                '73 Jawa Californian (collecting dust)

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                • #23
                  140403 are the correct ones.
                  '79 XS11 F
                  Stock except K&N

                  '79 XS11 SF
                  Stock, no title.

                  '84 Chevy K-10 "Big Blue"
                  GM 350, Muncie SM465, NP208, GM 10 Bolt with 3.42gears turnin 31x10.5 Baja Claws

                  "What they do have is an implacable, unrelenting presence and movement that bespeaks massive power lurking behind paint and chrome. They don't wail like a screeching ninja, the don't rumble like a harley. They just growl like a spactic, stressed out badger waiting to rip your face off and eat your soul." Trainzz~RIP~

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                  • #24
                    Done! Ordered and on their way, thanks! I can still run those plug caps though, right?
                    '79 Yamaha XS11 SF (project)
                    '11 Harley Nightster (street)
                    '03 KTM 125sx (dirt)
                    '03 Suzuki GSXR-600 (track)
                    '73 Jawa Californian (collecting dust)

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by 3Phase View Post
                      PMK,

                      It'll work fine with manual fuel taps but a leaky carburetor float needle/seat will fill the engine/airbox/garage/whatever with fuel so you will have to remember to turn off the taps when you shut off the engine after each and every ride and while you're crashing or dropping the bike so you don't get covered with fuel that won't stop pouring out of the carburetors.

                      .
                      Now that's funny ...

                      (No offense meant to anyone who has crashed or dropped their bike)
                      Last edited by Prisoner6; 07-27-2014, 05:59 PM.
                      Marco

                      Current bikes:
                      1979 Yamaha XS Eleven Special (SF)
                      1979 Honda CBX
                      2002 Kawasaki ZRX1200R

                      Rest in Peace, Don Glardon (DGXSER) 1966-2014
                      WE MISS YOU, DON

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                      • #26
                        anyone have a picture of these coils on an XS11? I modified my frame by welding little tabs to fit the Mike's coils, and now I'm a little curious on how the fit would be. Are they comparable in size to the Mike's ones?
                        '79 Yamaha XS11 SF (project)
                        '11 Harley Nightster (street)
                        '03 KTM 125sx (dirt)
                        '03 Suzuki GSXR-600 (track)
                        '73 Jawa Californian (collecting dust)

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                        • #27
                          I bypassed the vacuum fuel on/off feature on Columbo when I first got the bike because it didn't work and I thought it was a stupid idea for weenies too lazy or absent minded to shut off the fuel when they shut off the engine. One fine night I covered myself with fuel when I stepped on an oil slick at a stoplight and wound up underneath the bike THAT! quick.

                          Lazy, absent minded weenie that I am I rode right home and made sure that stupid idea worked flawlessly again and did not leak.

                          .
                          -- Scott
                          _____

                          2004 ST1300A: No name... yet
                          1982 XJ1100J: "Baby" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
                          1980 XS1100G: "Columbo" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
                          1979 XS1100SF: "Bush" W.I.P.
                          1979 XS1100F: parts
                          2018 Heritage Softail Classic 117 FLHCS SE: "Nanuk" It's DEAD, it's not just resting. It is an EX cycle.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by 3Phase View Post
                            I bypassed the vacuum fuel on/off feature on Columbo when I first got the bike because it didn't work and I thought it was a stupid idea for weenies too lazy or absent minded to shut off the fuel when they shut off the engine. One fine night I covered myself with fuel when I stepped on an oil slick at a stoplight and wound up underneath the bike THAT! quick.

                            Lazy, absent minded weenie that I am I rode right home and made sure that stupid idea worked flawlessly again and did not leak.

                            .
                            Hey, **** happens. My vented gas cap dumped a bunch of fuel on me when I lowsided my track bike at Road America. Forget about putting salt on the wound, gas is much worse hahaha
                            '79 Yamaha XS11 SF (project)
                            '11 Harley Nightster (street)
                            '03 KTM 125sx (dirt)
                            '03 Suzuki GSXR-600 (track)
                            '73 Jawa Californian (collecting dust)

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                            • #29
                              The #1 reason I repaired my vacuum shutoff on my Special.
                              Marty (in Mississippi)
                              XS1100SG
                              XS650SK
                              XS650SH
                              XS650G
                              XS6502F
                              XS650E

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by PMKXS11 View Post
                                Hey, **** happens. My vented gas cap dumped a bunch of fuel on me when I lowsided my track bike at Road America. Forget about putting salt on the wound, gas is much worse hahaha
                                Ouch! I don't race but the cap's always held fuel in the tank pretty well for me except when I overfill it.

                                Originally posted by jetmechmarty View Post
                                The #1 reason I repaired my vacuum shutoff on my Special.
                                Bingo. That particular night was back when I'd just bought Columbo, shortly before I joined this site and just shortly after I'd begun to figure out it was a pig in a poke and there was a lot of work that had to be done....

                                At the time, the engine liked to backfire out the carbs (yet-to-be-discovered bad slide diaphragms and goofy carb synch) so the longest part was drying the gas out of the airbox and off of my clothes before trying the starter so the bike and I wouldn't catch on fire there at the intersection.

                                .
                                -- Scott
                                _____

                                2004 ST1300A: No name... yet
                                1982 XJ1100J: "Baby" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
                                1980 XS1100G: "Columbo" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
                                1979 XS1100SF: "Bush" W.I.P.
                                1979 XS1100F: parts
                                2018 Heritage Softail Classic 117 FLHCS SE: "Nanuk" It's DEAD, it's not just resting. It is an EX cycle.

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