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    I have been having a time figuring out my choke. For some reason when using the choke, it is getting to much fuel. I do need to use it for initial start, but then i have to turn it right off, and hold the throttle on for a couple minutes. I have been unable to isolate the cause of this. The balls are in the right place on the shaft, it works easy, the bike runs good, but it there has to be a reason the choke system is getting to much fuel. Any ideas would be helpful. Trying to get everything in order before selling.
    Thanks
    1980 XS1100LG Midnight
    1991 Honda CBR1000F Hurricane


    "The hand is almost valueless at one end of the arm if there be not a brain at the other"

    Here's to a long life and a happy one.
    A quick death and an easy one.
    A pretty girl and an honest one.
    A cold beer and another one!

  • #2
    Leaky choke plungers? Rare but it does happen.
    78 E - 2to1 exhaust, dynatek coils, special headlight [SOLD!]
    79 F - gas tank refurb, headgasket change, straight pipes, late model carbs, virago lowering shocks, special headlight and gauges, TC fuse block, GSXR-1100 carbs (WIP)


    "May my tires not fail me, nor my engine grow cold"

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    • #3
      Did the little brass Start jets in the float bowls get reamed out oversize when they were cleaned?

      I can't think of any way for them to fall out but are they all still in the float bowls and not MIA under the work bench?

      Like Downshift suggested, the Enrichener plungers might be leaking but that would affect the engine when the Enrichener is off, too. The rubber tips on the plungers inside the carbs will leak when they get old and baked to a crisp, crackly crunch. The plungers won't seat if the yokes are out of position on the shaft.

      It's easy to check the yokes but you have to split the carb bank to remove the plungers and check tips.

      .
      -- Scott
      _____

      2004 ST1300A: No name... yet
      1982 XJ1100J: "Baby" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
      1980 XS1100G: "Columbo" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
      1979 XS1100SF: "Bush" W.I.P.
      1979 XS1100F: parts
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      • #4
        what happens

        what does the bike do when the choke lever is in the second position from all the way engaged. Does the bike slow down or continue to rev high? The reason I ask is mine has always raced once warm in the full out position. In hot weather that only takes less then 30 seconds. Once I push the choke back in one detent it slows and then I give it a minute or two before fully disengaging and the bike idles from there. What exactly is yours doing?
        2 - 80 LGs bought one new
        81 LH
        02 FXSTB Nighttrain
        22 FLTRK Road Glide Limited
        Jim

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        • #5
          Originally posted by cajun31 View Post
          what does the bike do when the choke lever is in the second position from all the way engaged. Does the bike slow down or continue to rev high? The reason I ask is mine has always raced once warm in the full out position. In hot weather that only takes less then 30 seconds. Once I push the choke back in one detent it slows and then I give it a minute or two before fully disengaging and the bike idles from there. What exactly is yours doing?
          Yup, thats what I was going to say. The enricher has two settings, all the way out is the richest. Try moving it to the first position after you start it with the richest setting. Then after a minute or more turn it off completely.
          '79 XS11 F
          Stock except K&N

          '79 XS11 SF
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          '84 Chevy K-10 "Big Blue"
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          • #6
            The pistons in the enrichment circuit can get sticky and not close off the circuit. When they seem to be working right they are not. Get a flashlight if needed, a long screwdriver/rod and reach in and push lightly on the end of the pistons where the clip on the choke rod grabs them to make sure they are closing all the way, if not a little oil sprayed under the rubber covers may free them.
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            • #7
              Mine chokes out after the initial start, and will not run in any position except the off position.
              1980 XS1100LG Midnight
              1991 Honda CBR1000F Hurricane


              "The hand is almost valueless at one end of the arm if there be not a brain at the other"

              Here's to a long life and a happy one.
              A quick death and an easy one.
              A pretty girl and an honest one.
              A cold beer and another one!

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              • #8
                what all have you done

                to the carbs. Have you cleaned them and now you are experiencing the choke problem? I would suggest you go back and do the carb cleaning 101 in detail. redo the idle mixture settings and synching of the carbs. It is sounding like you have and idle circuit problem and going back through the cleaning process and initial settings may resolve your issues.
                2 - 80 LGs bought one new
                81 LH
                02 FXSTB Nighttrain
                22 FLTRK Road Glide Limited
                Jim

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                • #9
                  by the way

                  what kind of condition is your bike in overall. I noticed by your signature you have an LG.
                  2 - 80 LGs bought one new
                  81 LH
                  02 FXSTB Nighttrain
                  22 FLTRK Road Glide Limited
                  Jim

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                  • #10
                    Rich

                    Couple things to look for when you pull the bowls off. The brass tube has a small hole in it just above the level of the bowl mating surface. Make sure those are clean. Second thing is if you look at the carb body closely you'll see a little diagonal hole drilled from the mating surface into the lower chamber. The enrichement pick up draws it's air through that hole from that lower chamber. Make sure they are all clear. Then you'll see that that hole connects to a round hole beside the brass pick up tube. Make sure your gaskets have that little hole knocked out to allow that passage to breath.
                    mack
                    79 XS 1100 SF Special
                    HERMES
                    original owner
                    http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps6932d5df.jpg

                    81 XS 1100 LH MNS
                    SPICA
                    http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad305/mack-055/2.jpg

                    78 XS 11E
                    IOTA
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                    https://youtu.be/RaI3WYHSuWA



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                    • #11
                      If all that everyone has said above is right, clean and open then check the size of your pilot jets. Too large a pilot will make you run rich on choke (enrichment).
                      Mike Giroir
                      79 XS-1100 Special

                      Once you un-can a can of worms, the only way to re-can them is with a bigger can.

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                      • #12
                        Ok guys. I am going to pull the carbs off again to look at things. Don't know if i will find the problem, as i have had the carbs off about 8 times in the last year. This has not been a problem up until lately, so maybe i got something plugged. I am coming real close to parting her out. I have my cbr1000 that i like just as much, and it gets better mileage. I still get 38 miles per gallon on the XS, so it does ok after idle. I will try to find something that will describe the choke, and idle circuit in more detail.
                        1980 XS1100LG Midnight
                        1991 Honda CBR1000F Hurricane


                        "The hand is almost valueless at one end of the arm if there be not a brain at the other"

                        Here's to a long life and a happy one.
                        A quick death and an easy one.
                        A pretty girl and an honest one.
                        A cold beer and another one!

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                        • #13
                          When you get it apart look at the seal made into the plunger. I left some in a dip bath too long once and it ate those seals up.
                          79SF
                          XJ11
                          78E

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                          • #14
                            Don't

                            part it out till you give it a chance. If you hit a brick wall, send me your carbs and I'll look through them. I can generally find the issue if I can get hands on. These are wonderful bikes, I won't charge you a cent other than the shipping!
                            mack
                            79 XS 1100 SF Special
                            HERMES
                            original owner
                            http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps6932d5df.jpg

                            81 XS 1100 LH MNS
                            SPICA
                            http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad305/mack-055/2.jpg

                            78 XS 11E
                            IOTA
                            https://youtu.be/wB5Jfbp6SUc
                            https://youtu.be/RaI3WYHSuWA



                            Have recovery trailer and shop if you breakdown in my area.
                            Frankford, Ont, Canada
                            613-398-6186

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                            • #15
                              If your

                              interested. I have a set of carbs here that are from and 81 LH. Pristine inside and out. Not sure how your gold looks but if you send me your carbs, I'll trade tops and turn these around real quick so you can ride ASAP.
                              mack
                              79 XS 1100 SF Special
                              HERMES
                              original owner
                              http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps6932d5df.jpg

                              81 XS 1100 LH MNS
                              SPICA
                              http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad305/mack-055/2.jpg

                              78 XS 11E
                              IOTA
                              https://youtu.be/wB5Jfbp6SUc
                              https://youtu.be/RaI3WYHSuWA



                              Have recovery trailer and shop if you breakdown in my area.
                              Frankford, Ont, Canada
                              613-398-6186

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