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  • #1

    Died in my driveway.....ugh

    I was on my way to work...well, I thought I was.

    Had Excelsior warmed up...and started backing out of the drive..just before I hit the thottle to go...it died..I couldnt get it to turn over.


    Now that I'm home from work, I tinkered a little...now its getting ready to storm like something crazy, so here I am posting.

    If I arc the starter and hold it there, it starts and runs fine, revs..etc.

    The moment I let go of the starter..it dies.

    I have another wiring issue somewhere...
    79F
    "Excelsior"
    Honda gl1100 handlebar
    Vetter IV fairing with speaker system
    OE headers,Jardine slipons
    Hid headlight 6000k
    Stock jets
    Shinko 712 F & R
    Oe hardbags and luggage rack
    TC fuse block
    K&n filter with oe airbox
    Raptor 660 Acct
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  • #2
    The 78E I'm building was doing that it had to do with the Kill switch (Right controls not hooked up). Check it to make sure you didn't hit the kill switch accidently. BTDT
    Ty

    78 XS1100E - Now in Minnesota
    80 XS1100LG - The Punisher
    82 XJ1100 - Current project - The Twins
    82 XJ1100 - Wife's Bike - The Twins
    82 XJ1100 - Daughter's Bike
    72 Suzuki TS125 - Daughter's Bike
    72 Yamaha Mini JT2 - Youngest Daughter's bike (She wants a bigger one now)

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    • #3
      Bring it back to life !!

      My initial thought would be the solenoid,
      Also I had a similar issue a while back ...
      The plug that goes from the right handlebar to the harness was ill fitting and when I turned the bars it would die.

      Probably not this but I Updated to later coils (81) and didn't know that I had to plug the (now) unused ballast wires together.

      Had a faulty kill switch and just twisted the wires together ................
      .................... had a weird miss that I couldn't find ........until I took a night
      ride and saw a intermittent sparking at the handle bar...
      78standard,79 & 80 Specials; 2 x 650 Maxims; 4 x RD350's; yz450; 2 x Honda tlr's;2x jt1 mini.

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      • #4
        The starter solinoid I rebuilt a month or two ago...

        The right hand controls connector, and kill switch has been removed and baypassed already.

        I'm at a loss what it could be

        Tomorrow I'll remember to bring my test light and tools home...so I can actually fidget properly.
        79F
        "Excelsior"
        Honda gl1100 handlebar
        Vetter IV fairing with speaker system
        OE headers,Jardine slipons
        Hid headlight 6000k
        Stock jets
        Shinko 712 F & R
        Oe hardbags and luggage rack
        TC fuse block
        K&n filter with oe airbox
        Raptor 660 Acct

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        • #5
          Hey Spark,

          You say you are Arcing the Starter....do you mean you're placing a metal device to arc across the 2 large bolts on the starter solenoid?? You say you couldn't get it to turn over..I'm assuming by pushing the starter button?

          You rebuilt the solenoid...but now it's acting up, I suggest you revisit your rebuild..I think something has gone bad in the solenoid.
          T.C.
          T. C. Gresham
          81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
          79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
          History shows again and again,
          How nature points out the folly of men!

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          • #6
            Great...I get to dive into that thing again? lol!


            What a pain it was with all that solder....


            But wait...isnt that just a starter solinoid?
            If it isnt functioning...the bike should still stay running after I arc it...correct?
            79F
            "Excelsior"
            Honda gl1100 handlebar
            Vetter IV fairing with speaker system
            OE headers,Jardine slipons
            Hid headlight 6000k
            Stock jets
            Shinko 712 F & R
            Oe hardbags and luggage rack
            TC fuse block
            K&n filter with oe airbox
            Raptor 660 Acct

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            • #7
              Mine did that at the grocery store once. It turned out to be a bad connection on a fuse.
              Greg

              Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

              ― Albert Einstein

              80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

              The list changes.

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              • #8
                solenoid??

                No it will not continue to run after it starts>
                No offense intended but you can buy one online for 10-15 bucks.
                Why aggravate yourself if you find it to be a pain in the butt to rebuild?
                78standard,79 & 80 Specials; 2 x 650 Maxims; 4 x RD350's; yz450; 2 x Honda tlr's;2x jt1 mini.

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                • #9
                  Nah, he's not getting power to the TCI except when the solenoid bypasses the power circuit to the TCI during cranking.

                  If the dash lights don't come on when you turn the key on It has to be a fuse, a connector somewhere, or the ignition switch. Even if the kill switch is off or bad the lights will still come on.

                  Turn the key on and wiggle stuff until you find the problem.
                  Last edited by BA80; 06-17-2014, 06:33 PM.
                  Greg

                  Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                  ― Albert Einstein

                  80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                  The list changes.

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                  • #10
                    All the lights turn on...everything functions...EXCEPT the starter button...
                    When solinnoid is jumped...itll run fine, untill I let go..then it dies instantly!
                    79F
                    "Excelsior"
                    Honda gl1100 handlebar
                    Vetter IV fairing with speaker system
                    OE headers,Jardine slipons
                    Hid headlight 6000k
                    Stock jets
                    Shinko 712 F & R
                    Oe hardbags and luggage rack
                    TC fuse block
                    K&n filter with oe airbox
                    Raptor 660 Acct

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                    • #11
                      Check your bypass of the kill switch. That's what it sounds like.
                      Greg

                      Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                      ― Albert Einstein

                      80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                      The list changes.

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                      • #12
                        I will check.

                        Maybe something loosened up...
                        79F
                        "Excelsior"
                        Honda gl1100 handlebar
                        Vetter IV fairing with speaker system
                        OE headers,Jardine slipons
                        Hid headlight 6000k
                        Stock jets
                        Shinko 712 F & R
                        Oe hardbags and luggage rack
                        TC fuse block
                        K&n filter with oe airbox
                        Raptor 660 Acct

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                        • #13
                          In my attempt to keep everything as oe as possible, when I bypassed the kill switch, I left the connector in there, and bypassed it after that.

                          That was my issue. That connector must have failed. The moment I started fidgeting with the connector, I gained the ability to crank and keep running. So... I removed the connector completely, used spade connectors and butt connectors in its place.

                          It took me forever to get to it because every afternoon after work, I was getting thunderstorms religiously. Florida weather can be a pain sometimes.

                          But. It's a okay now! Ready for the next problem to surface! Lol.
                          79F
                          "Excelsior"
                          Honda gl1100 handlebar
                          Vetter IV fairing with speaker system
                          OE headers,Jardine slipons
                          Hid headlight 6000k
                          Stock jets
                          Shinko 712 F & R
                          Oe hardbags and luggage rack
                          TC fuse block
                          K&n filter with oe airbox
                          Raptor 660 Acct

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