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I have a bike that jumps out of 3rd gear if you do not use a positive shift method into 3rd. should i just try to shift with conviction into 3rd or should i do the fix?
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Steven
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shift with conviction.Originally posted by Gallaecus View PostXS1100F 1980 European model. Standard. Dyna coils. Iridium plugs. XS750 final drive (sometimes). Micron fork brace. Progressive front springs. Geezer regulator/rectifier. Stainless 4 into 2 exhaust. Auto CCT (Venturer 1300) SOLD. New project now on the go. 1980 European model. -
Might wanna pull the shifter cover and look see that the shift pawl alignment marks are aligned when in second gear. Alignment is a cammed adjustment amd lock-nut at shift shaft assembly. Pics and procedure are here on site.Originally posted by James England View Post81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.Comment
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Motoman--Could that advice also apply to a second gear problem in FIRST, or am I stuck doing the "fix"?Gunnery Sergeant, USMC (Retired), (A gung ho, lifer, Devil Dog) Semper Fidelis
XS1100E, 11.5" XV1100 shocks, "no name" 4 into 2 headers and turn out mufflers, stock air box, 140 mains, spade type fuse block, volt meter, LED conversion on running/turn/brake/tail lights, aux front driving and running light bar, 850 FD swap, Chrysler electronic VR. Ugly as a monkey's butt - runs like a scalded ape (WHEN IT RUNS
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Possible..........on the centerstand, engage it to second gear, remove shifter and cover and have a look-see. Most likely the latter thoughOriginally posted by Clyde K. View Post
. My original motor ened up with the first gear not staying engaged, even under the slightest clutch engagment, which I still have complete, never been apart. The 81 replacement motor out of a Venturer ended up showing the issue in second gear at approx. the 20K that was on it when I installed it. So ended up dropping that shaft assembly out the bottom and dove-tailed the load side all the gears with 'dogs' and angle ground all slots, including the 'bottom' slots to complete the dove-tail fit. Some swap a washer location for farther engagement of the dogs, but in my trannies case, possibly from a slight machining difference, had full engagement of the dogs and they were flush with backside of slotted gear, so left well- enough alone with no washer swap.
81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.Comment
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3rd gear really doesn't have the same problems as 1 and 2. You gotta kick these things into gear pretty manly like. Like Fred says "They shift like a Russian tractor".Originally posted by Gallaecus View Post
I don't think that'll do it. It'll need to be ground I'm sure.Originally posted by Clyde K. View PostGreg
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80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.
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I figured as much, just grasping at straws. Thanks for the comeback, Guys. Semper Fi. ClydeGunnery Sergeant, USMC (Retired), (A gung ho, lifer, Devil Dog) Semper Fidelis
XS1100E, 11.5" XV1100 shocks, "no name" 4 into 2 headers and turn out mufflers, stock air box, 140 mains, spade type fuse block, volt meter, LED conversion on running/turn/brake/tail lights, aux front driving and running light bar, 850 FD swap, Chrysler electronic VR. Ugly as a monkey's butt - runs like a scalded ape (WHEN IT RUNS)Comment
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Steven, you may find it easier to make a more positive upshift in all gears by moving the shifter one spline CCW, making it slightly lower.Last edited by bikerphil; 05-24-2014, 08:31 PM.2H7 (79) owned since '89
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Third gear in these already has the 'fix' (backcut) from the factory (why they didn't do all the gears is a mystery), so that's never been an issue that I'm aware of. Shift 'firmly'....
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Hey Steve,
I think it was 81XSProject(Jesse) that had his 3rd gear go out like 1st and 2nd, and so he actually had to go in a 3rd time, because he didn't to 1st and 2nd together. And then again when 3rd went...!
Yes, it is very rare, but it can suffer the same malady, especially if folks avoid using 2nd and quickly go into 3rd before attaining adequate rpms, so 3rd gets more stress more often.
T.C.T. C. Gresham
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