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  • dolphans1
    Truly XSive
    • Mar 2013
    • 168
    • Orlando, Fla.

    #1

    XS 1100 Special Engine Knock or clacking sound Help?

    I have a difficult question to ask about my 1979 Yamaha XS 1100 Special and it centers around a "knock" noise I feel I am hearing, so I made this YouTube video to see if I may gain some clarification to it.

    I recently rebuilt the carbs, but never had them synched, however, when bike runs at high speeds and higher RPM's that sound goes away.

    My bike has almost 11,000 miles.



    Thanks for any input or suggestions....
    79 SF
  • TopCatGr58
    Administrator
    • Jul 2002
    • 12650
    • Portsmouth, Va.

    #2
    Can't access video!

    Hey there,

    We can't access the video, it's PRIVATE!!! You need to edit it to make it public!!

    T.C.
    T. C. Gresham
    81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
    79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
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    • BA80
      Doctor of XSology
      • Oct 2010
      • 9980
      • Tulsa, Ok

      #3
      You've gotta change your privacy settings on youtube or load it into a Photobucket account
      Greg

      Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

      ― Albert Einstein

      80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

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      • dolphans1
        Truly XSive
        • Mar 2013
        • 168
        • Orlando, Fla.

        #4
        Originally posted by TopCatGr58
        Hey there,

        We can't access the video, it's PRIVATE!!! You need to edit it to make it public!!

        T.C.

        Thanks for letting me know, let me see what is going on.
        79 SF

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        • dolphans1
          Truly XSive
          • Mar 2013
          • 168
          • Orlando, Fla.

          #5
          I just made correction and I did not realize we had to make it a public video, I hope it shows up.

          Thanks Again for letting me know.

          d-1
          79 SF

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          • BA80
            Doctor of XSology
            • Oct 2010
            • 9980
            • Tulsa, Ok

            #6
            Sounds like an exhaust leak. Take a piece of hose, vacuum hose works well, put one end in an ear and run the other open end around the exhaust pipes where they connect to the engine and you can find which pipe is leaking.

            New exhaust gaskets should take care of it if that's what it is.
            Greg

            Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

            ― Albert Einstein

            80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

            The list changes.

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            • dolphans1
              Truly XSive
              • Mar 2013
              • 168
              • Orlando, Fla.

              #7
              Originally posted by BA80
              Sounds like an exhaust leak. Take a piece of hose, vacuum hose works well, put one end in an ear and run the other open end around the exhaust pipes where they connect to the engine and you can find which pipe is leaking.

              New exhaust gaskets should take care of it if that's what it is.
              You mean like a vacuum cleaner hose to like a shop vac?

              Thanks for advice.
              79 SF

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              • BA80
                Doctor of XSology
                • Oct 2010
                • 9980
                • Tulsa, Ok

                #8
                Ummmm........no. I mean vacuum hose like to hook to the vacuum ports on the engine. Black rubber hose about half the diameter of your little finger.
                Greg

                Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                ― Albert Einstein

                80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                The list changes.

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                • MaximPhil
                  XS-XJ Super Guru
                  • May 2004
                  • 4119
                  • Mississauga, ON CANADA

                  #9
                  Originally posted by BA80
                  Sounds like an exhaust leak. Take a piece of hose, vacuum hose works well, put one end in an ear and run the other open end around the exhaust pipes where they connect to the engine and you can find which pipe is leaking.

                  New exhaust gaskets should take care of it if that's what it is.
                  I agree Greg. I should know as i have experienced this many times.
                  Dolphans, get some PB Blaster penetrating oil available from Walmart
                  and soak those nuts before you attempt to undo.
                  Gaskets available lots of places like here http://www.partsnmore.com/parts/yamaha/xs1100/?filters[fitting]=custom
                  about 1/2 way down the page.
                  Be sure to remove all the old gasket. Check manual for torque when
                  re installing. See forum thread about how to replace broken studs if you do not have a torque wrench with a low enough setting

                  Phil
                  1981 XS1100 H Venturer ( Addie)
                  1983 XJ 650 Maxim
                  2004 Kawasaki Concours. ( Black Bear)

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                  • ViperRon
                    XS-XJ Guru
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 1062
                    • Woodstock, VA

                    #10
                    I agree sounds like exhaust but also while you are at it you have old style cam chain adjuster. You should perform the cam chain adjustment if you do not have a manual search threads there are several downloads.
                    To fix the problem one should not make more assumptions than the minimum needed.

                    Rodan
                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khm6...liHntN91DHjHiS
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                    Original Yamaha Fairfing and Bags
                    1198 Overbore kit
                    Grizzly 660 ACCT
                    Barnett Clutch Springs
                    R1 Clutch Fiber Plates
                    122.5 Main Jets
                    ACCT Mod
                    Mac 4-2 Flare Tips
                    Antivibe Bar ends
                    Rear trunk add-on
                    http://s1184.photobucket.com/albums/z329/viperron1/

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                    • BA80
                      Doctor of XSology
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 9980
                      • Tulsa, Ok

                      #11
                      I heard that too Ron, I was just trying to stick to the subject.
                      Greg

                      Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                      ― Albert Einstein

                      80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                      The list changes.

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                      • dolphans1
                        Truly XSive
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 168
                        • Orlando, Fla.

                        #12
                        Just a follow up to this post, it appears the sound may be caused by a vacuum leak from the carbs.

                        I took it to a bike shop today and he plugged a carburetor synchronizer and we he attached all 4 hose to the sync gauge and started the bike, and plugged the hose leading to the crank case, the knocking sound went away.

                        The carbs were all dead on synced , but I do not know how all the original vacuum hoses should be connected to the bike, since the original owner had air pods on the bike and I went bike to the original air cleaner.

                        I know there are 2 vacuum hoses that hang down, but I am not sure where I would put those.

                        Does anyone have a drawing how these hoses should be connected?
                        79 SF

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                        • dolphans1
                          Truly XSive
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 168
                          • Orlando, Fla.

                          #13
                          Just a follow up to this post, it appears the sound may be cause by a vacuum leak from the carbs.

                          I took it to a bike shop today and he plugged a carburetor synchronizer and we he attached all 4 hose to the sync gauge and started the bike, and plugged the hose leading to the crank case, the knocking sound went away.

                          The carbs were all dead on synced , but I do not know how all the original vacuum hoses should be connected to the bike, since the original owner had air pods on the bike and I went bike to the original air cleaner.

                          I know there are 2 vacuum hoses that hang down, but I am not sure where I would put those.

                          Does anyone have a drawing how these hoses should be connected?
                          79 SF

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                          • motoman
                            Master of XSology
                            • Aug 2005
                            • 8413
                            • Grand Junction, Colorado

                            #14
                            Originally posted by dolphans1
                            Just a follow up to this post, it appears the sound may be cause by a vacuum leak from the carbs.

                            I took it to a bike shop today and he plugged a carburetor synchronizer and we he attached all 4 hose to the sync gauge and started the bike, and plugged the hose leading to the crank case, the knocking sound went away.

                            The carbs were all dead on synced , but I do not know how all the original vacuum hoses should be connected to the bike, since the original owner had air pods on the bike and I went bike to the original air cleaner.

                            I know there are 2 vacuum hoses that hang down, but I am not sure where I would put those.

                            Does anyone have a drawing how these hoses should be connected?
                            Should'nt be any hoses hanging down as you say. The sound your hearing is likely from the vaccum advance hose hooked up incorrectly. That hose, which comes from left-side ignition cover goes to #2 carb itself, not the intake boot nipple.
                            I don't have the Special, so don't have the 'octy'. Another member here who does can better explain or show pic of the hose configuration on the Specials.
                            81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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                            • BA80
                              Doctor of XSology
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 9980
                              • Tulsa, Ok

                              #15
                              There should be vent hoses (kinda look like vacuum hoses) running from the battery and the middle drive and hanging down by the middle of the front of the swingarm under the bike.

                              If you still have the octy there will be a hose from the diaphragm to the #2 intake boot. The vacuum advance hose running from inside the left engine cover goes to the vacuum port on the front of the #2 carb.
                              Greg

                              Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                              ― Albert Einstein

                              80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                              The list changes.

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