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  • #16
    Originally posted by GLoweVA View Post
    ... could the cylinder 'hold' vaccum enough to keep the petcock open?

    Swing and a miss!

    Mmmmm nope! The diaphragms have tiny little vent holes in them so they won't stay open when the engine is turned off.

    And now, back to your regularly scheduled thread!

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    -- Scott
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    2004 ST1300A: No name... yet
    1982 XJ1100J: "Baby" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
    1980 XS1100G: "Columbo" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
    1979 XS1100SF: "Bush" W.I.P.
    1979 XS1100F: parts
    2018 Heritage Softail Classic 117 FLHCS SE: "Nanuk" It's DEAD, it's not just resting. It is an EX cycle.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by 3Phase View Post
      Swing and a miss!

      Mmmmm nope! The diaphragms have tiny little vent holes in them so they won't stay open when the engine is turned off.

      And now, back to your regularly scheduled thread!

      .
      What's the count?......................
      81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by motoman View Post
        What's the count?......................
        3 and 2 with a runner on 3rd.

        .
        -- Scott
        _____

        2004 ST1300A: No name... yet
        1982 XJ1100J: "Baby" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
        1980 XS1100G: "Columbo" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
        1979 XS1100SF: "Bush" W.I.P.
        1979 XS1100F: parts
        2018 Heritage Softail Classic 117 FLHCS SE: "Nanuk" It's DEAD, it's not just resting. It is an EX cycle.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by 3Phase View Post
          Swing and a miss!

          Mmmmm nope! The diaphragms have tiny little vent holes in them so they won't stay open when the engine is turned off.

          And now, back to your regularly scheduled thread!

          .
          Of course, those tiny vent hoses are prone to getting plugged with spooge. When plugged, the vacuum that is created when the engine is running, which pulls the petcock diaphragm over to allow fuel to flow, does not release when the engine is shut off, which allows the petcock to keep passing fuel.

          When you are inside the petcock, ream that wee orifice wide open with a piece of wire so it will never plug again. That will solve the leaky petcock problem. Then all you have left to do is fix the leaking float valve(s) problem.

          Ken Talbot

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Ken Talbot View Post
            Of course, those tiny vent hoses are prone to getting plugged with spooge. When plugged, the vacuum that is created when the engine is running, which pulls the petcock diaphragm over to allow fuel to flow, does not release when the engine is shut off, which allows the petcock to keep passing fuel.

            When you are inside the petcock, ream that wee orifice wide open with a piece of wire so it will never plug again. That will solve the leaky petcock problem. Then all you have left to do is fix the leaking float valve(s) problem.

            <Vin Scully> "And it's a line drive past first base!" </VinScully>


            Or the P.O. could have put it together wrong so the hole can't vent, then got rid of the bike because it kept leaking fuel all over the place.

            I agree: Fix the leaking floats first and then worry about the fuel taps.

            .
            -- Scott
            _____

            2004 ST1300A: No name... yet
            1982 XJ1100J: "Baby" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
            1980 XS1100G: "Columbo" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
            1979 XS1100SF: "Bush" W.I.P.
            1979 XS1100F: parts
            2018 Heritage Softail Classic 117 FLHCS SE: "Nanuk" It's DEAD, it's not just resting. It is an EX cycle.

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            • #21
              Thanks for all the advise
              There was no problems before i started the rebuild, so i can only blame myself
              I agree, i'll focus on the carbs first, since thats where the leak is the biggest problem. I'll inspect and clean them thoroughly when i get the bike back.
              The vent holes in the petcocks, where are they exactly? I think i saw a guide in here once, but now i cant find it.
              '78 XS1100 E Lean & Loud

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Wolf View Post
                Thanks for all the advise
                There was no problems before i started the rebuild, so i can only blame myself
                I agree, i'll focus on the carbs first, since thats where the leak is the biggest problem. I'll inspect and clean them thoroughly when i get the bike back.
                The vent holes in the petcocks, where are they exactly? I think i saw a guide in here once, but now i cant find it.
                Here's a thread showing the internals:
                http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread...tcock+diaphram

                Look down to post #13, 5th, 6th & 7th picture.
                Hi, my name is George & I'm a twisty addict!

                80G (Green paint(PO idea))
                The Green Monster
                K&N A/F, TC's fuse block, '81 oil cooler, TC's homemade 4-2 w/Mac Mufflers, Raptor 660 ACCT
                Got him in '04.
                bald tire & borrowing parts

                80SG (Black w/red emblems & calipers)
                Scarlet
                K&N A/F, TC's fuse block, WJ5, Shoei bags, Raptor 660 ACCT.
                Got her in '11
                Ready for the twisties!

                81H (previously CPMaynard's)
                Hugo
                Full Venturer, Indigo Blue with B/W painted tank.
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                • #23
                  Oh yeah, pretty easy to see those vent holes now. Thanks.
                  Just got the bike back from upholstering, and not a drop of gas coming out of the filters now so i'll probably leave it be for now. I'm thinking a little piece of something got flushed out or at least moved, so the needles can close properly now. If everything goes well, this will do for the season. A quick oil'n'filter change and i'm out of here
                  Probably give those old petcocks an overhaul though, since the "new" ones have the gas lines pointing downwards and not in, which makes the pod filters get in the way.
                  '78 XS1100 E Lean & Loud

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Wolf View Post
                    Thanks for all the advise
                    I think i saw a guide in here once, but now i cant find it.
                    Wolf,

                    After you get the carburetors sorted. The link below will get you through fixing the petcocks.

                    Rebuilding Yamaha Vacuum Operated Fuel Valves (Petcocks.)
                    Marty (in Mississippi)
                    XS1100SG
                    XS650SK
                    XS650SH
                    XS650G
                    XS6502F
                    XS650E

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                    • #25
                      Thats exactly the guide i was thinking of
                      Not from in here then
                      '78 XS1100 E Lean & Loud

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