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This "stuff" (above picture) was in the front master cylinder of my 1981H. Upper right in picture is crud that was in the M/C bore. The plunger was much dirtier, but I had to clean it to determine how the new seal went on. Bike has 26K miles and 30+ years in and out of service. There was similar material in both front calipers. Front brakes are original. Most bike manufacturers recommend changing/flushing brake fluid every 2 years. I believe this to be a good idea from what I see in this example.
My guess is that if you have an old XS11 that you have not done the brakes on, you are likely to find exactly what you see here in your ride. Not good! Now is a good time to check yours.
MikeLast edited by MPittma100; 10-16-2013, 03:41 PM.1981 XS1100H Venturer
K&N Air Filter
ACCT
Custom Paint by Deitz
Geezer Rectifier/Regulator
Chacal Stainless Steel Braided Brake Lines
Chrome Front Rotor & Caliper Covers
Stebel Nautilus Horn
EBC Front Rotors
Limie Accent Moves On In 2015
Mike
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Yup, brakes MUST be gone through on any new to you bike (except brand new I guess) before it goes on the road.Nathan
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1978 XS1100E
K&N Filter
#45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
OEM Exhaust
ATK Fork Brace
LED Dash lights
Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters
Green Monster Coils
SS Brake Lines
Vision 550 Auto Tensioner
In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.
Theodore Roosevelt
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I feel very lucky. When I got my XS in April, I redid the front brakes, (as they were a little sticky in front) maintenance included: tear the calipers down, separate with air compressor, put new fluid in, etc.) and had no 'spooge', minimal pitting, and pads that were in good shape. From all the stuff I'm reading about timing chain tensioners, shims, brakes, and all the other stuff, I guess I got a winner. I did have a few carb issues, and some fuse panel stuff, but I am good to go. Brakes are great.79 F
Previously owned: (among others)
1969 Harley- Davidson Rapido 125 (Aermacchi)
1967 Suzuki X6 Hustler
1973 Suzuki TM 125
1979 XS1100 F
2005 Kaw. Vulcan VN800
1991 BMW K75
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Mike- Thanks for posting this. I have a front and rear master cylinder rebuild kit from my 750 that I'll be using on the 1100 over the Winter. So many projects to do, so little money, lol.1979 XS1100F
2H9 Mod, Truck-Lite LED Headlight, TECHNA-FIT S/S Brake Lines, Rear Air Shocks, TKAT Fork Brace, Dyna DC-I Coils, TC Fuse Block, Barnett HD Clutch Springs, Superbike Handlebars, V-Star 650 ACCT, NGK Irridium Plugs, OEM Exhaust. CNC-Cut 2nd Gear Dogs; Ported/Milled Head; Modded Airbox: 8x8 Wix Panel Filter; #137.5 Main Jet, Viper Yellow Paint, Michelin Pilot Activ F/R, Interstate AGM Battery, 14MM MC, Maier Fairing, Cree LED Fog Lights.
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Do you think that that blob of fuzzy-looking stuff is from the hose lining? It might be a good thing to replace the hoses while you're at it.Skids (Sid Hansen)
Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.
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Originally posted by MPittma100 View PostThis "stuff" (above picture) was in the front master cylinder of my 1981H. - - - Most bike manufacturers recommend changing/flushing brake fluid every 2 years. I believe this to be a good idea from what I see in this example. - - -
the fluid change is mostly because DOT3 & DOT4 brake fluid absorbs water over time and you notice how rusty those brake parts are?
The black crud is most likely debris from the brake hoses, now is a good time to move up to stainless wire braided ones.Fred Hill, S'toon
XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
"The Flying Pumpkin"
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Old Brakes
It's hard to say what the crud actually is. Yes, it could be from the hoses. I am wondering who has the best, easiest to install replacements.
Mike1981 XS1100H Venturer
K&N Air Filter
ACCT
Custom Paint by Deitz
Geezer Rectifier/Regulator
Chacal Stainless Steel Braided Brake Lines
Chrome Front Rotor & Caliper Covers
Stebel Nautilus Horn
EBC Front Rotors
Limie Accent Moves On In 2015
Mike
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Old Brakes/Bearings
I noticed that replacement front wheel bearings are sealed bearings. On the bike itself the right side bearing outer seal was not there upon disassembly. Does anyone know if this intentional?
Thanks, MP1981 XS1100H Venturer
K&N Air Filter
ACCT
Custom Paint by Deitz
Geezer Rectifier/Regulator
Chacal Stainless Steel Braided Brake Lines
Chrome Front Rotor & Caliper Covers
Stebel Nautilus Horn
EBC Front Rotors
Limie Accent Moves On In 2015
Mike
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Mike, usually the inner cover are the ones that are missing, so it most likely either fell off, or the PO took it off so he could grease the bearing easily. If your new replacement bearings have the plastic covers, one side can be easily popped off with a jewelers screwdriver to add a bit more grease and then reinstalled. When I recently replaced mine, I added some marine grease to the small amount of grease that came with the bearing.2H7 (79) owned since '89
3H3 owned since '06
"If it ain't broke, modify it"
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Bearings
Originally posted by bikerphil View PostMike, usually the inner cover are the ones that are missing, so it most likely either fell off, or the PO took it off so he could grease the bearing easily. If your new replacement bearings have the plastic covers, one side can be easily popped off with a jewelers screwdriver to add a bit more grease and then reinstalled. When I recently replaced mine, I added some marine grease to the small amount of grease that came with the bearing.1981 XS1100H Venturer
K&N Air Filter
ACCT
Custom Paint by Deitz
Geezer Rectifier/Regulator
Chacal Stainless Steel Braided Brake Lines
Chrome Front Rotor & Caliper Covers
Stebel Nautilus Horn
EBC Front Rotors
Limie Accent Moves On In 2015
Mike
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Brake Lines
Originally posted by jetmechmarty View PostNew brake lines are available at XJBikes.com. The chatter on here says they're ready to go.
Thanks, I will contact them and let you know.
MP1981 XS1100H Venturer
K&N Air Filter
ACCT
Custom Paint by Deitz
Geezer Rectifier/Regulator
Chacal Stainless Steel Braided Brake Lines
Chrome Front Rotor & Caliper Covers
Stebel Nautilus Horn
EBC Front Rotors
Limie Accent Moves On In 2015
Mike
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Brake Lines
Originally posted by jetmechmarty View PostNew brake lines are available at XJBikes.com. The chatter on here says they're ready to go.
Got the brake lines coming from XJ4ever.com (XJBikes.com). Ordered this morning and were shipped out USPS Priority today. Opted for the rubber rather than SS. Staying with the OEM look.
Getting all three for front and both for rear plus new copper washers. Total for all including shipping and 8% GA sales tax was $243.00. Lot of money for rubber brake lines, but I believe this to be a wise investment.
Should be in hand by middle of next week. Will post some pictures of the procedure.
Mike1981 XS1100H Venturer
K&N Air Filter
ACCT
Custom Paint by Deitz
Geezer Rectifier/Regulator
Chacal Stainless Steel Braided Brake Lines
Chrome Front Rotor & Caliper Covers
Stebel Nautilus Horn
EBC Front Rotors
Limie Accent Moves On In 2015
Mike
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