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  • le_bucheron
    XSive
    • Sep 2012
    • 45
    • Montreal, Quebec, Canada

    #1

    carbs jetting issue video colortune

    Hi,

    The last weekend it was my first ride with my xj since ive got it one year ago. I had pod and dynojet. Ive tried different jet.

    Here my setup:

    Xj1100 83

    Dynojet stage 1-3
    4-1 exhaust
    Cheap ebay pod.
    I used my oem runner air box to not block something on my carbs.
    new seal, needle seat and float needle.
    Drill slide #39
    Pilot air jet 190
    main jet 124
    Idle jet 50
    c-clip on groove #2 + washer
    4 open turns on mixture screw
    synced with vaccum gauge

    When I use my colortune it's look like I run lean. But the idle look like rich... What you thing? I have 2 videos. One of my idle with warm engine and the second of my colortune. All my cylinder look like the video.








    I apologize my english quality. Je parle francais
    83 XJ1100
    06 FZ1 naked abarth
  • mack
    XS-XJ Guru
    • Sep 2009
    • 2411
    • Ontario, Canada

    #2
    Plugs

    What do your plugs look like?
    mack
    79 XS 1100 SF Special
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    78 XS 11E
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    https://youtu.be/wB5Jfbp6SUc
    https://youtu.be/RaI3WYHSuWA



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    • Rasputin
      XS-XJ Super Guru
      • Apr 2008
      • 3180
      • Lacombe, Alberta, Canada

      #3
      I am not familiar with the dyno jets and all, but I wonder if you used the YICS Eliminator tool just how much difference you would see. The YICS is something that makes tuning harder and I believe almost impossible with a colortune. Again colortune with a YICS is something I have not yet, so my theory may be wrong. Using the tool would make it act the same as the other XS1100's for tuning. Larry, known as Yahman (IIRC) on the site invented and sells these on the site for quite a reasonable price. Might be worth checking out. Someone who knows more will chime in soon, but that was my first thought.
      2-79 XS1100 SF
      2-78 XS1100 E Best bike Ever
      80 XS 1100 SG Big bore kit but not fully running yet.
      Couple of more parts bikes of which 2 more will live!

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      • le_bucheron
        XSive
        • Sep 2012
        • 45
        • Montreal, Quebec, Canada

        #4
        My plug are really dark. Like black...

        Yep I used Larry Yics tool.
        83 XJ1100
        06 FZ1 naked abarth

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        • IanDMacDonald
          XS-XJ Super Guru
          • Oct 2010
          • 3917
          • Grand Blanc & Fenton, MI

          #5
          I just watched both videos, and would say seeing a solid yellow flame @ idle means that you're not running lean on that cylinder. If all of your cylinders are firing like that, there is your problem my frenchy friend.
          Last edited by IanDMacDonald; 08-26-2013, 09:14 PM.
          1979 XS1100F
          2H9 Mod, Truck-Lite LED Headlight, TECHNA-FIT S/S Brake Lines, Rear Air Shocks, TKAT Fork Brace, Dyna DC-I Coils, TC Fuse Block, Barnett HD Clutch Springs, Superbike Handlebars, V-Star 650 ACCT, NGK Irridium Plugs, OEM Exhaust. CNC-Cut 2nd Gear Dogs; Ported/Milled Head; Modded Airbox: 8x8 Wix Panel Filter; #137.5 Main Jet, Viper Yellow Paint, Michelin Pilot Activ F/R, Interstate AGM Battery, 14MM MC, Maier Fairing, Cree LED Fog Lights.

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          • DGXSER
            Doctor of XSology(Deceased)
            • Nov 2008
            • 12001
            • Cincinnati, Ohio

            #6
            Actually, with the colortune, when your solid yellow as that indicates, your running rich. Now if it were white, it would indicate a lean condition.

            First clean your plugs before you go back to tuning. Get the engine good and warm, I usually go for about ten mile ride before I try to tune it. What I always shoot for with the colortune is to get the yellow, then lean it out until the yellow just disappears and I have all blue. Then I richen the mixture about 1/4 turn of the mix screw. It will be mostly blue with some yellow tinges.
            Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

            When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.

            81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
            80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


            Previously owned
            93 GSX600F
            80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
            81 XS1100 Special
            81 CB750 C
            80 CB750 C
            78 XS750

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            • le_bucheron
              XSive
              • Sep 2012
              • 45
              • Montreal, Quebec, Canada

              #7
              Oh thanks guys I will give you some more feedback tomorrow!
              83 XJ1100
              06 FZ1 naked abarth

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              • IanDMacDonald
                XS-XJ Super Guru
                • Oct 2010
                • 3917
                • Grand Blanc & Fenton, MI

                #8
                Originally posted by IanDMacDonald
                I . . . would say . . . you're not running lean on that cylinder.
                Time for some sexy specs Don, lol.
                1979 XS1100F
                2H9 Mod, Truck-Lite LED Headlight, TECHNA-FIT S/S Brake Lines, Rear Air Shocks, TKAT Fork Brace, Dyna DC-I Coils, TC Fuse Block, Barnett HD Clutch Springs, Superbike Handlebars, V-Star 650 ACCT, NGK Irridium Plugs, OEM Exhaust. CNC-Cut 2nd Gear Dogs; Ported/Milled Head; Modded Airbox: 8x8 Wix Panel Filter; #137.5 Main Jet, Viper Yellow Paint, Michelin Pilot Activ F/R, Interstate AGM Battery, 14MM MC, Maier Fairing, Cree LED Fog Lights.

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                • DGXSER
                  Doctor of XSology(Deceased)
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 12001
                  • Cincinnati, Ohio

                  #9
                  Originally posted by le_bucheron
                  When I use my colortune it's look like I run lean. But the idle look like rich... What you thing?
                  Right back at you Ian. I get the cool blue ones, you can have the "dusty rose" ones.
                  Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

                  When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.

                  81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
                  80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


                  Previously owned
                  93 GSX600F
                  80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
                  81 XS1100 Special
                  81 CB750 C
                  80 CB750 C
                  78 XS750

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                  • IanDMacDonald
                    XS-XJ Super Guru
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 3917
                    • Grand Blanc & Fenton, MI

                    #10
                    ^^^^^ LMFAOOOOOO Don. I guess our roles are reversed from yesterday.
                    1979 XS1100F
                    2H9 Mod, Truck-Lite LED Headlight, TECHNA-FIT S/S Brake Lines, Rear Air Shocks, TKAT Fork Brace, Dyna DC-I Coils, TC Fuse Block, Barnett HD Clutch Springs, Superbike Handlebars, V-Star 650 ACCT, NGK Irridium Plugs, OEM Exhaust. CNC-Cut 2nd Gear Dogs; Ported/Milled Head; Modded Airbox: 8x8 Wix Panel Filter; #137.5 Main Jet, Viper Yellow Paint, Michelin Pilot Activ F/R, Interstate AGM Battery, 14MM MC, Maier Fairing, Cree LED Fog Lights.

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                    • le_bucheron
                      XSive
                      • Sep 2012
                      • 45
                      • Montreal, Quebec, Canada

                      #11
                      I don't had enough time to do many test drive today but I did the colortune again. I lean the mixture. Now I thing I'm 1 turn open on the screw. I dropped the screw for the idle. Tomorrow I will do a good test drive. It's so good to finally run the bike. Thanks everyone for your help!

                      I lean the mixture too lost the yellow and hit the bleu. I put in the middle of those colors.
                      83 XJ1100
                      06 FZ1 naked abarth

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                      • le_bucheron
                        XSive
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 45
                        • Montreal, Quebec, Canada

                        #12
                        No more spark from #4... It's not the plug...
                        83 XJ1100
                        06 FZ1 naked abarth

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                        • IanDMacDonald
                          XS-XJ Super Guru
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 3917
                          • Grand Blanc & Fenton, MI

                          #13
                          I'm going through the same thing as you are right now. I'd suggest ditching the colour tune, turn the screws out 2 1/2 turns as a starting point, and adjust via plug chop.
                          1979 XS1100F
                          2H9 Mod, Truck-Lite LED Headlight, TECHNA-FIT S/S Brake Lines, Rear Air Shocks, TKAT Fork Brace, Dyna DC-I Coils, TC Fuse Block, Barnett HD Clutch Springs, Superbike Handlebars, V-Star 650 ACCT, NGK Irridium Plugs, OEM Exhaust. CNC-Cut 2nd Gear Dogs; Ported/Milled Head; Modded Airbox: 8x8 Wix Panel Filter; #137.5 Main Jet, Viper Yellow Paint, Michelin Pilot Activ F/R, Interstate AGM Battery, 14MM MC, Maier Fairing, Cree LED Fog Lights.

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                          • le_bucheron
                            XSive
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 45
                            • Montreal, Quebec, Canada

                            #14
                            Originally posted by IanDMacDonald
                            I'm going through the same thing as you are right now. I'd suggest ditching the colour tune, turn the screws out 2 1/2 turns as a starting point, and adjust via plug chop.
                            Yeah I will use the plug chop for the high end rpm. The colortune did a good job for now. But I need to find why I don't have any fire from #4...
                            83 XJ1100
                            06 FZ1 naked abarth

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                            • DELL82
                              XStremely XSive
                              • May 2006
                              • 260
                              • Houston, Texas

                              #15
                              Funny you said" I don't have any spark from #4" Mine is also that way. I finally have exhausted all problems with the carb.
                              Plug is slight wet when idling but no spark. I will be checking out the Dyna coils this weekend. RPM over 3000 and #4 is running great? color is beige. Below 3000RPM and no spark.
                              Dell
                              Dell82
                              Houston, TX
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