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  • #16
    KA1J,

    Welcome to the club.

    Before you start shredding metal, why are you replacing all this stuff? Are the needles, jets, and throttle shaft seals actually worn or are they just dirty and need cleaning? The only parts that actually get any physical wear and tear are the floats, float valves, enricheners, slides, slide diaphragms, needle jets, jet needles, and throttle shaft seals. Unless you totally hammer the parts trying to get them out of the carb bodies almost everything can just be cleaned and re-used.

    The jet needles (slide needles) and needle jets (emulsion tubes) are no longer available anywhere. There is no link to those parts or I'd give you one. Your best bet for replacing the rest of the jets is your friendly neighborhood motorcycle dealership. You can buy them online if you really want to but I like to bring the old jets with me and eyeball the new ones personally right there on the counter before I give up my money to make sure they're the correct size, type, and that they're actually Mikuni jets.

    I haven't used them myself but I think the carburetor shaft seals from Mike's XS are okay. If you're going that far into the rebuild you'll also need the carburetor throttle plate screws:-
    Mike's Throttle Shaft Screws

    When you clean the slides and check the diaphragms for leaks pay attention to the length of the slide return springs and try not to mix them up. Since you're diving in deep with your carburetors, what are the markings on your XJ's jet (slide) needles? You can remove the retainer clips holding in the needles but memorize, photograph, take notes or carve hieroglyphs on the wall of the mancave if you have to but do not mix up the order of the needle clips and washers. Assembly has to be the exact reverse of disassembly or the needle height will be wrong and you'll drive yourself crazy trying to tune the engine.

    For reference, here's a picture of two different Mikuni needles that shows the part numbers. The one with five slots is from a set of '78/'79 carbs and I think the second one with the single slot is an '80/'81 Standard needle that shows the Genuine Mikuni logo:-


    Click to download the original full size picture



    I don't remember the numbers on the needle jets and jet needles in my XJ carbs (they're on my '80G right now and I'm not going to take them off and pull them apart to look at them ) but if yours are marked 300FJX-7 they are:
    Mikuni 300 Series needle jets
    Size X7

    I never did find out what the letters 'FJ' in the part number meant. It might be the size, number, and location of the air bleed holes in the sides of the jet but I've never found it documented anywhere so just I pulled that wild guess right out from underneath my keyboard.

    Do not 'mess' up your carbs.

    If you do you'll be trolling eBay like everyone else looking for a new set of used carbs that you hope is in better shape than your old set of carbs.


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    -- Scott
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    2004 ST1300A: No name... yet
    1982 XJ1100J: "Baby" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
    1980 XS1100G: "Columbo" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
    1979 XS1100SF: "Bush" W.I.P.
    1979 XS1100F: parts
    2018 Heritage Softail Classic 117 FLHCS SE: "Nanuk" It's DEAD, it's not just resting. It is an EX cycle.

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    • #17
      Firstly, check out this thread I started about carb needles and emulsion tubes. It's kind of a library of information on the various needles and emulsion tubes used for the US models and the Yamaha part numbers.

      http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39799

      Secondly, I'm preparing to send a 5GL16 Needle and a 300FJX-2 Nozzle out for machining. I will let people know when I have a product for sale.
      '79 XS11 F
      Stock except K&N

      '79 XS11 SF
      Stock, no title.

      '84 Chevy K-10 "Big Blue"
      GM 350, Muncie SM465, NP208, GM 10 Bolt with 3.42gears turnin 31x10.5 Baja Claws

      "What they do have is an implacable, unrelenting presence and movement that bespeaks massive power lurking behind paint and chrome. They don't wail like a screeching ninja, the don't rumble like a harley. They just growl like a spactic, stressed out badger waiting to rip your face off and eat your soul." Trainzz~RIP~

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      • #18
        Originally posted by KA1J View Post
        Thanks for all the thoughtful replies.

        As mentioned in the initial post for the XJ11, the stock XJ11 jets are:

        Main Air - 170
        Pilot - 47.5
        Main - 112.5
        Unsaid was the specific emulsion tube but the Yama part # for the XJ11 is 3H5-14941-02-00 and cross referencing that the emulsion tube is the same for:

        XJ1100J 1982 1100 XJ1100 Street
        XS1100G 1980 1100 XS1100 Street
        XS1100H 1981 1100 XS1100 Street
        XS1100LG 1980 1100 XS1100L Midnight Special Street
        XS1100LH 1981 1100 XS1100L Midnight Special Street
        XS1100SG 1980 1100 XS1100S Street
        XS1100SH 1981 1100 XS1100S Street

        So apparently all the XS1100's and the XJ11 use the same emulsion tube.

        I looked on the emulsion tube and found the number 300FJX-7 and the 7 is quite distinct and definitely not a 2 but doing a google for 300FJX-7 only shows a couple of posts here for emulsion tube 300FJX-2 Go figure...

        Idears?
        Regarding what's in bold, I believe the emulsion tube has a 2 stamped in it and not a 7. It's difficult to tell on the one I have but am convinced its a 2. Which makes sense to me because I can get emulsion tubes for me snowmobile that end in -1 -2 -3 which changes the richness of the middle range. A -7 would indicate 7 variations of the 300FJX nozzle, just seems unlikely to me...
        '79 XS11 F
        Stock except K&N

        '79 XS11 SF
        Stock, no title.

        '84 Chevy K-10 "Big Blue"
        GM 350, Muncie SM465, NP208, GM 10 Bolt with 3.42gears turnin 31x10.5 Baja Claws

        "What they do have is an implacable, unrelenting presence and movement that bespeaks massive power lurking behind paint and chrome. They don't wail like a screeching ninja, the don't rumble like a harley. They just growl like a spactic, stressed out badger waiting to rip your face off and eat your soul." Trainzz~RIP~

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        • #19
          Carburetor Differences

          Check out the emulsion tubes if you are not positive of what you have because the differences make a big difference when you are trying to nail the jetting.
          81 Black "1179" Xcessively trick Super Special. One owner (me).

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          • #20
            Haven't seen you around in a while, Dan. Good to see you again!
            Try your hardest to be the kind of person your dog thinks you are.

            You can live to be 100, as long as you give up everything that would make you want to live to be 100!

            Current bikes:
            '06 Suzuki DR650
            *'82 XJ1100 with the 1179 kit. "Mad Maxim"
            '82 XJ1100 Completely stock fixer-upper
            '82 XJ1100 Bagger fixer-upper
            '82 XJ1100 Motor/frame and lots of boxes of parts
            '82 XJ1100 Parts bike
            '81 XS1100 Special
            '81 YZ250
            '80 XS850 Special
            '80 XR100
            *Crashed/Totalled, still own

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            • #21
              New (NOS) Gas Tank

              Originally posted by trbig View Post
              Haven't seen you around in a while, Dan. Good to see you again!
              And the pleasure is all mine.

              Actually I've been involved in some other projects but did have time this year to put a new(NOS) gas tank on mine which cost me a fortune but the original had already been creamed once and the stuff was either coming loose or there was a boat load of rust/gunk that screwed up my carburetors and so I bought a new one from Donelson Cycles stash, the only brand new one in the world that I could find and so now it's all good.
              81 Black "1179" Xcessively trick Super Special. One owner (me).

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