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    Started a new job last week at a large nation wide paint retailer. Today I was talking to one of the mixers about painting my bike and he mentioned the line of auto paint we carry and said he could mix up anything I wanted.

    How much will I need for a tank, side covers and possibly a small sports fairing?

    Im thinking of just having it put into spray cans and doing it that way. Thoughts?
    Nate

    78 XS11 "Matilda" 2H7 000364

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  • #2
    I use just regular spray Duplicolor on mine. The trick is to get a good 2 part clear coat to protect it.

    This is what I use ..........http://www.66autocolor.com/SprayMax_.../spm-mix2k.htm
    Greg

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    The list changes.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by BA80 View Post
      I use just regular spray Duplicolor on mine. The trick is to get a good 2 part clear coat to protect it.

      This is what I use ..........http://www.66autocolor.com/SprayMax_.../spm-mix2k.htm
      Once the Duplicolor is really cured I've spilled fuel on it and just a little buffing took away the signs. Only clear I've tried was 1 part and the fuel took it off to leave rivers in the finnish, re-do !
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      • #4
        Yeah, the duplicolor melts with a gas spill, even the high heat ceramic, and you have to work on it. This clear holds up good and spills just wipe off easily when you catch them.

        The only time I had a problem with it is when I had the tank off and fuel spilled out the cap because of how I had it sitting. It got in under the clear and bubbled after it leaked on it for about 4 hours.

        It's some work to apply because it orange peels when it dries but a good wet sanding with 600 then 2000 and then a finish with 3000 and some rubbing compound and it looks pretty much factory and is pretty bullet proof.
        Last edited by BA80; 06-13-2013, 07:49 PM.
        Greg

        Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

        ― Albert Einstein

        80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

        The list changes.

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        • #5
          On another note, you can't get in a hurry if you want a good paint job. The base color needs to dry completely, at least 4 - 5 days.

          Wet sand that smooth with no more coarse sandpaper than 450 and then apply the clear. That needs to dry at least 4 days, a week is better. Then do the finish sanding as I said.

          All wet sanding.
          Last edited by BA80; 06-13-2013, 07:56 PM.
          Greg

          Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

          ― Albert Einstein

          80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

          The list changes.

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          • #6
            Excellent. I think Ill go that route. Not crazy about taking two weeks off of riding but I think it will be worth it. Thoughts on how much paint Ill need? Would 1 quart be enough for the base?
            Nate

            78 XS11 "Matilda" 2H7 000364

            2001 Raptor ACCT, T.C. Fuse Box, TC Bros Forward Controls
            Kuryakyn Iso Grips/Throttleboss/Bar End Mirror, Custom Covered Seat
            Shinko 712s, HID Headlight, RC Performance Exhaust
            Bikemaster Daytona Handlebars, Galfer SS Brake Lines
            Barnett HD Clutch Springs, T.C. Spin On Filter Adapter
            K+N Air Filter

            88 Voyager XII
            81 XJ650 Maxim

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            • #7
              Don't know how much in Quarts. I used about a can and a half of color in spray cans. Probably 8 coats or so. About a half hour between them.

              This is what the tank for the SF looked like while the clear was drying.



              You can sorta see the orange peel that needs attention when it's done.
              Greg

              Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

              ― Albert Einstein

              80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

              The list changes.

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              • #8
                Anything special I would need to do for two colors? I wasnt sure if I needed to wait for the base to completely dry, tape it off and sand the area for the second color or do I not sand before the second?
                Nate

                78 XS11 "Matilda" 2H7 000364

                2001 Raptor ACCT, T.C. Fuse Box, TC Bros Forward Controls
                Kuryakyn Iso Grips/Throttleboss/Bar End Mirror, Custom Covered Seat
                Shinko 712s, HID Headlight, RC Performance Exhaust
                Bikemaster Daytona Handlebars, Galfer SS Brake Lines
                Barnett HD Clutch Springs, T.C. Spin On Filter Adapter
                K+N Air Filter

                88 Voyager XII
                81 XJ650 Maxim

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                • #9
                  I would sand before changing colors and sand to blend the border of the two. You'll need to be certain the base is dry before you tape or the tape will pull it up.

                  Here's the finished product. There's still rubbing compound in the cracks and it hasn't been polished yet.

                  Greg

                  Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                  ― Albert Einstein

                  80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                  The list changes.

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                  • #10
                    Turned out real nice. Im thinking of going a dark metallic grey for the base and a maroon racing stripe, knee dents and side cover pattern trimmed in black.
                    Nate

                    78 XS11 "Matilda" 2H7 000364

                    2001 Raptor ACCT, T.C. Fuse Box, TC Bros Forward Controls
                    Kuryakyn Iso Grips/Throttleboss/Bar End Mirror, Custom Covered Seat
                    Shinko 712s, HID Headlight, RC Performance Exhaust
                    Bikemaster Daytona Handlebars, Galfer SS Brake Lines
                    Barnett HD Clutch Springs, T.C. Spin On Filter Adapter
                    K+N Air Filter

                    88 Voyager XII
                    81 XJ650 Maxim

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                    • #11
                      Buy a trashy tank thats clean and swap it in while painting.

                      Isn't $40-60 worth not skipping out riding?


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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by jwhughes3 View Post
                        Buy a trashy tank thats clean and swap it in while painting.

                        Isn't $40-60 worth not skipping out riding?


                        John
                        Never hurts to have an extra laying around anyway.

                        John will tell you.
                        Greg

                        Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                        ― Albert Einstein

                        80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                        The list changes.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Tat2demon View Post
                          How much will I need for a tank, side covers and possibly a small sports fairing?
                          If you're spraying with a HVLP gun, about a pint will be enough for a tank, sidecovers and a small fairing. But it's tough to get custom mixed paint in less than a quart, so it's usually not an issue....
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                          • #14
                            I got about 1/2 a pint of the red I painted the SG I just finished. Did not quite use all of it to paint the tank and both side covers. Put three good coats of color on each. That is using a 2 part base that got thinned down with reducer.
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                            • #15
                              Wow so a quart should be enough for a few bikes.
                              Nate

                              78 XS11 "Matilda" 2H7 000364

                              2001 Raptor ACCT, T.C. Fuse Box, TC Bros Forward Controls
                              Kuryakyn Iso Grips/Throttleboss/Bar End Mirror, Custom Covered Seat
                              Shinko 712s, HID Headlight, RC Performance Exhaust
                              Bikemaster Daytona Handlebars, Galfer SS Brake Lines
                              Barnett HD Clutch Springs, T.C. Spin On Filter Adapter
                              K+N Air Filter

                              88 Voyager XII
                              81 XJ650 Maxim

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