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Are EBC clutch discs ok to use. I have read that i want to stay away from Barnett discs. What other discs should i use? I need to replace my clutch. Don't know about the steels yet.
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1980 XS1100LG Midnight
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The clutch plates on www.partsnmore.com are also okay, and relatively cheap!
What you WILL want to get are the Barnett Springs set!! Unless you've done some serious overheating of your clutch, your steels should be just fine. Lay them on a sheet of glass to check for warpage. Then just take some fine emory cloth and scuff them up a little bit to remove the glaze.
If you do need steels, you can get them singularly on BikeBandit.com for around $8.00 or so each IIRC. I don't have the OEM part number to check with some of the online YAMAHA shops folks like to recommend, but you should be able to find it in the Online Parts Fiche site!
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Ebc discs with barnett springs is fine. Just don't use the ebc springs they suck!Nathan
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I have EBC plates and springs in my SG and I like them. No complaints from me.Slow down and enjoy life. If you are in that much of a hurry, you should have left eariler.
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I have PartsNmore frictions with EBC springs, no problems after 50K miles, YMMV.2H7 (79) owned since '89
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Thanks guys. That's the info i needed..1980 XS1100LG Midnight
1991 Honda CBR1000F Hurricane
"The hand is almost valueless at one end of the arm if there be not a brain at the other"
Here's to a long life and a happy one.
A quick death and an easy one.
A pretty girl and an honest one.
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Originally posted by bikerphil View Post
Wow... I can't even get a season out of a set of the EBC springs. Tried several, so I don't feel it was a one-time fluke. I guess I've got well over 100k now with this set of Barnetts.
As rough as I apparently am on a clutch, I've still never had to replace a set of frictions? One time on just one of my teardowns, I found one friction disc slightly below spec. I had several clutch baskets laying around, so I just replaced the one disc.Try your hardest to be the kind of person your dog thinks you are.
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I've got 20,000 miles on my parts-n-more fruction plates with HD Barnett springs and no issues. I'd recommend the PNM frictions to anyone even if you are rough on stuff. I have yet to make any adjustments since I installed them and I've done a good number of clutch-ups messing around.
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Yep, I wouldn't use the EBC springs unless replacing the frictions with new ones. These EBC springs say 10% stronger than OEM. On my other bike, the EBC springs were about 10 years old and it did start slipping. I just added an extra steel plate on that one, now it's fine.2H7 (79) owned since '89
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I noticed the EBC discs i looked at said not to use with synthetic oil. Not a big problem for me, but makes me wonder about the compound used in the friction material. It also sounds like i should tear it down and check the discas, maybe it is the springs giving the problem. It does have almost 40,000 miles on it, and i am out of adjustment, so it could most likely use all the discs.1980 XS1100LG Midnight
1991 Honda CBR1000F Hurricane
"The hand is almost valueless at one end of the arm if there be not a brain at the other"
Here's to a long life and a happy one.
A quick death and an easy one.
A pretty girl and an honest one.
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OEM and aftermarket friction disks are organic like a cork material and are incompatible with synthetic oil abd causes them to slip. I haven't heard of any replacement disks that meant to compatible with synthetic oil.Originally posted by XS1100 Newbie View Post
Does anyone know if Barnett claims their friction disks play well with synthetic? Someone probably has first hand experience if they do or not...'79 XS11 F
Stock except K&N
'79 XS11 SF
Stock, no title.
'84 Chevy K-10 "Big Blue"
GM 350, Muncie SM465, NP208, GM 10 Bolt with 3.42gears turnin 31x10.5 Baja Claws
"What they do have is an implacable, unrelenting presence and movement that bespeaks massive power lurking behind paint and chrome. They don't wail like a screeching ninja, the don't rumble like a harley. They just growl like a spactic, stressed out badger waiting to rip your face off and eat your soul." Trainzz~RIP~Comment
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Hey Newbie,
Being out of adjustment range at the engine does sound like you may have worn frictions. Loose/weak springs could also have contributed to this wear because instead of GRABBING so that the frictions and steels are LOCKED together, the frictions were slipping while under load, which would then rub and wear them down prematurely. Also you would also note less fuel economy because of the slipping!
Aside from not using SYNTH in our machines for a variety of reasons, you also don't want to use regular oil that has friction modifiers in it... the upper half of the SAE Seal circle should be empty!
T.C.T. C. Gresham
81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
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Correction... Lower half should be empty. If it says "Energy conserving" across the bottom, it's a big fat lie for our bikes.the upper half of the SAE Seal circle should be empty!Try your hardest to be the kind of person your dog thinks you are.
You can live to be 100, as long as you give up everything that would make you want to live to be 100!
Current bikes:
'06 Suzuki DR650
*'82 XJ1100 with the 1179 kit. "Mad Maxim"
'82 XJ1100 Completely stock fixer-upper
'82 XJ1100 Bagger fixer-upper
'82 XJ1100 Motor/frame and lots of boxes of parts
'82 XJ1100 Parts bike
'81 XS1100 Special
'81 YZ250
'80 XS850 Special
'80 XR100
*Crashed/Totalled, still ownComment
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Why have I never had issue with synthetic oil? I have used Mobil 1 and Amsoil, maybe some others. I've used these in my XS650 and XS1100, both with OEM clutches. The synthetic that I used was designated for motorcycles.
I am currently using 20W50 Yamalube because it's economical and appears to be slippery.
Marty (in Mississippi)
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