What are people lubing new petcock rubbers with?

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  • Courtney
    XSive Maximus
    • Jul 2002
    • 542
    • Nanaimo BC Canada

    #1

    What are people lubing new petcock rubbers with?

    So just assembling my new K&L kits into my special tank and was wondering what people are lubing the new diaphragms with? I'm thinking brake grease??
    Bone stock 1980 Special except for the exhaust and crashbars. Oh yeah, and the scabbard for the Winchester Defender.
  • crazy steve
    XS-XJ Guru MODERATOR
    • Jan 2009
    • 7932
    • Beautiful outer Yelm, WA

    #2
    You want to be careful with some brake greases; if they're silicon-based, that can be pretty abrasive on rubber parts... DAMHIKIJK..

    I've used some petroleum jelly in the past; easy to find, won't harm anything. There is a 'rubber grease' but it's very hard to find in the US; I got mine off eBay from a guy who imported it from Australia... but is great for this as well as assembling calipers/master cylinders (compatible with brake fluid).
    Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

    '78E original owner - resto project
    '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
    '82 XJ rebuild project
    '80SG restified, red SOLD
    '79F parts...
    '81H more parts...

    Other current bikes:
    '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
    '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
    '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
    Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
    Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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    • Courtney
      XSive Maximus
      • Jul 2002
      • 542
      • Nanaimo BC Canada

      #3
      OK, I've read white lithium grease as well, so I'm just gonna go with the vaseline I think. I'm thinking this washes off after awhile right? The gas is in contact with it??? Trying to picture the petcock holes and rubber gasket....
      Bone stock 1980 Special except for the exhaust and crashbars. Oh yeah, and the scabbard for the Winchester Defender.

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      • skids
        XS-XJ Super Guru
        • Jul 2002
        • 5046
        • Florissant, CO, USA

        #4
        Yes, gasoline disolves grease.
        If you want to add years to the rubber holey gasket, sand and polish the face of the valves with mother's milk or Eagle 1. The hole edges can be pretty sharp and you can lightly sand (with 600 grit) to dull the edges. This takes no time at all and will reduce wear.
        Skids (Sid Hansen)

        Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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        • Rasputin
          XS-XJ Super Guru
          • Apr 2008
          • 3179
          • Lacombe, Alberta, Canada

          #5
          +1 on both the vaseline and polishing the surfaces. Works for me.
          2-79 XS1100 SF
          2-78 XS1100 E Best bike Ever
          80 XS 1100 SG Big bore kit but not fully running yet.
          Couple of more parts bikes of which 2 more will live!

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          • TADracer
            XS-XJ Guru
            • May 2006
            • 1417
            • Kenner, Louisiana USA

            #6
            Yes, polish those parts!

            Yes, polish those parts!

            My original cocks were very shabby and just did not seem worth the $ to rebuild but like many here I was on a budget. So I sprung for a pair of cheap Alfa petcocks (I think I paid $29.00 each) figuring they would last a year or so and then I could afford a pair of Pingles (at around $100.00 each). I took the Alfa's apart and polished up the parts before I installed them.....ten years or more later the Alfa's are still on and working perfectly and have never been rebuilt (and they flow well too!)
            Mike Giroir
            79 XS-1100 Special

            Once you un-can a can of worms, the only way to re-can them is with a bigger can.

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            • jetmechmarty
              Master of XSology
              • Nov 2003
              • 7761
              • Coldwater, Mississippi

              #7


              Less than $10 for a big tube than will last almost forever. I use it on just about every rubber seal.
              Marty (in Mississippi)
              XS1100SG
              XS650SK
              XS650SH
              XS650G
              XS6502F
              XS650E

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              • Courtney
                XSive Maximus
                • Jul 2002
                • 542
                • Nanaimo BC Canada

                #8
                Originally posted by jetmechmarty


                Less than $10 for a big tube than will last almost forever. I use it on just about every rubber seal.
                Looks like another unobtanium product in Canada. Like living in a f**king third world country sometimes. I'll find something similar, it's just rubber grease I'm thinking.
                Bone stock 1980 Special except for the exhaust and crashbars. Oh yeah, and the scabbard for the Winchester Defender.

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                • crazy steve
                  XS-XJ Guru MODERATOR
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 7932
                  • Beautiful outer Yelm, WA

                  #9
                  Try this..... http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_od...1090&_from=R40
                  Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

                  '78E original owner - resto project
                  '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
                  '82 XJ rebuild project
                  '80SG restified, red SOLD
                  '79F parts...
                  '81H more parts...

                  Other current bikes:
                  '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
                  '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
                  '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
                  Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
                  Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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                  • DAVINCI
                    XS-XJ Guru
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 1048
                    • Cedar Mountain, NC

                    #10
                    How 'bout plain ol motor oil? Works for me.
                    Former owner, but I have NO PARTS LEFT!

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                    • Courtney
                      XSive Maximus
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 542
                      • Nanaimo BC Canada

                      #11
                      Thanks Steve, I actually found some Sil-glyde I didn't know I had, which is a rubber lube. Someone had given it to me years ago and I found it sitting on my shelf. Go figger. Would LOVE to find the stuff that is gas resistant though.
                      Bone stock 1980 Special except for the exhaust and crashbars. Oh yeah, and the scabbard for the Winchester Defender.

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                      • fredintoon
                        Master of XSology
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 6795
                        • Saskatoon SK

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Courtney
                        Looks like another unobtanium product in Canada. Like living in a f**king third world country sometimes. I'll find something similar, it's just rubber grease I'm thinking.
                        Hi Courtney,
                        I'd be surprised if Bearing & Transmission didn't stock either that stuff or an equivalent.
                        Fred Hill, S'toon
                        XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
                        "The Flying Pumpkin"

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                        • jetmechmarty
                          Master of XSology
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 7761
                          • Coldwater, Mississippi

                          #13
                          The Parker Lube is particularly helpful when doing an oil change. It's thick enough to stick the big rubber o'ring to the cup. It's thick or thicker than Vaseline. (petrolatum)
                          Marty (in Mississippi)
                          XS1100SG
                          XS650SK
                          XS650SH
                          XS650G
                          XS6502F
                          XS650E

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                          • skids
                            XS-XJ Super Guru
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 5046
                            • Florissant, CO, USA

                            #14
                            OK, most of you know that I am a bit "off-center." When I read the subject line I was sure someone would respond "K-Y Jelly!"
                            Skids (Sid Hansen)

                            Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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                            • jetmechmarty
                              Master of XSology
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 7761
                              • Coldwater, Mississippi

                              #15
                              Originally posted by skids
                              OK, most of you know that I am a bit "off-center." When I read the subject line I was sure someone would respond "K-Y Jelly!"
                              I think KY is probably fine for installing o'rings. In the case of the petcock, I don't think it's appropriate because it won't remain lubed and the petcock will have to move over the long term.
                              Marty (in Mississippi)
                              XS1100SG
                              XS650SK
                              XS650SH
                              XS650G
                              XS6502F
                              XS650E

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