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  • #16
    Scariest thread I ever did see...


    For those of you who think your 30+ yr old lines work just fine, try this. Grab one of the lines with one hand and squeeze the brake lever with the other. Feel that swelling? That's braking power lost. If that doesn't scare you into getting new lines, stainless or otherwise, man nothing will.
    Former owner, but I have NO PARTS LEFT!

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    • #17
      Originally posted by DAVINCI View Post
      Scariest thread I ever did see...


      For those of you who think your 30+ yr old lines work just fine, try this. Grab one of the lines with one hand and squeeze the brake lever with the other. Feel that swelling? That's braking power lost. If that doesn't scare you into getting new lines, stainless or otherwise, man nothing will.
      Oh Randy, contrair,
      Having spongy brakes that lack feel and require more effort is easy to get used to, gradually. Squeezing harder builds stronger muscles...

      When the line bursts...That will scare you into making a change.
      In the mean time always aim at a clear spot (between lanes or pointing toward side) when stopping with OLD lines.
      It is a great big beautiful world out there
      Brent in GA
      Yamaha 80XS1100SG, HD Firefighter Special Edition 02 Road King, Honda 450 rat, 08 Buell 1125R tour modified, 83 goldwing parts bike gone-traded for XJ1100, 2014 HD electraglide police

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      • #18
        Man up guys, doing hospital time is a sign of masculinity.
        I also look down the barrel of my Browning Hi-power to see if it's loaded too.

        JK, of course it's a roulette game using old lines, and I am currently chatting with someone about a complete rubber replacement set. I was just curious to see who else has had their lines last this long besides me.
        Bone stock 1980 Special except for the exhaust and crashbars. Oh yeah, and the scabbard for the Winchester Defender.

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        • #19
          Mine are original,with under 15K,but it is on the bucket list for the bike to get braided.It still stops well,but I know............look ma,no brakes
          FOXS-XS11SG

          2009 Suzuki V Strom 650,Adventure in Touring,I call her "Smooth" SW Motech engine guard,Coocase top case w/ LED brake and tail lights,20" MRA touring screen w/adjusable bracket,Grip heaters,fender ex-tender,Givi hard sidebags

          1980 XS11SG-sold
          1999 Vulcan classic-sold
          1982 XJ 650-sold

          Old is only a state of mind......John

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          • #20
            When I dismantled my calipers, with only 23k on my '80G, there was bits of black rubber hose inside.
            For those who still run their original lines, they may look and feel good with no cracks on the outside as mine did, but it's what you can't see that'll kill ya

            Seriously, SS Braided lines are costly but at least get new rubber lines.

            The odds for us riders are stacked against us already, why make it worse ?
            1980 XS1100G "Dolly G" Full Dresser (with a coat of many colors )
            1979 XS1100SF (stock-euro mods planned)
            1984 XV700L Virago (to be hot-modded)
            1983 XJ750MK Midnight Maxim (semi-restored DD)
            1977 XS650D ( patiently awaiting resto)

            Sometimes it takes a whole tank of gas before you can think straight.

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            • #21
              Where can I find a set of rubber brake lines? Who has the best bang for the buck at the moment?? 1978 E.
              1) Fire up Internet Explorer
              2) http://www.yahoo.com
              3) type "www.mapquest.com" into the Yahoo search page.
              4) go about day as VP managing multi-million dollar financial contracts.

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              • #22
                How do I tell if I have original brake lines? My bikes has 22k miles on it. Guess that would be a good thing to do when I do the brake pads this spring as well.
                79 XS1100 SF

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Diskman01 View Post
                  Where can I find a set of rubber brake lines? Who has the best bang for the buck at the moment?? 1978 E.
                  Here ya go: http://www.xjbikes.com/Forums/viewtopic/t=40222.html

                  Originally posted by unicorncomputer View Post
                  How do I tell if I have original brake lines? My bikes has 22k miles on it. Guess that would be a good thing to do when I do the brake pads this spring as well.
                  Are they black rubber hose?
                  If so look for markings.
                  There should be a date labled on them in whitish grey paint or ink.
                  If it's too hard to read or locate they're in need of replacement.
                  1980 XS1100G "Dolly G" Full Dresser (with a coat of many colors )
                  1979 XS1100SF (stock-euro mods planned)
                  1984 XV700L Virago (to be hot-modded)
                  1983 XJ750MK Midnight Maxim (semi-restored DD)
                  1977 XS650D ( patiently awaiting resto)

                  Sometimes it takes a whole tank of gas before you can think straight.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Diskman01 View Post
                    Where can I find a set of rubber brake lines? Who has the best bang for the buck at the moment?? 1978 E.


                    That's $115 for rubber lines for his '78. $169 for stainless for it. You can get the universal stainless lines off Ebay for about half or less than the price of those rubber lines, and buy them a few pieces at a time.


                    But, it's your money.
                    Try your hardest to be the kind of person your dog thinks you are.

                    You can live to be 100, as long as you give up everything that would make you want to live to be 100!

                    Current bikes:
                    '06 Suzuki DR650
                    *'82 XJ1100 with the 1179 kit. "Mad Maxim"
                    '82 XJ1100 Completely stock fixer-upper
                    '82 XJ1100 Bagger fixer-upper
                    '82 XJ1100 Motor/frame and lots of boxes of parts
                    '82 XJ1100 Parts bike
                    '81 XS1100 Special
                    '81 YZ250
                    '80 XS850 Special
                    '80 XR100
                    *Crashed/Totalled, still own

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by trbig View Post
                      That's $115 for rubber lines for his '78. $169 for stainless for it. You can get the universal stainless lines off Ebay for about half or less than the price of those rubber lines, and buy them a few pieces at a time.


                      But, it's your money.

                      Yup. I did the math already. Its 169ish for ALL my lines (rubber). I can order the stainless ones on eBay for less than half. At least I got somewhere to start! Thanks for the original link!

                      Now I gotta find my banjo end diameters, angles, lengths and layouts to order SS lines.. sigh..
                      1) Fire up Internet Explorer
                      2) http://www.yahoo.com
                      3) type "www.mapquest.com" into the Yahoo search page.
                      4) go about day as VP managing multi-million dollar financial contracts.

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                      • #26
                        Actually that's the only place I could find the rubber lines.
                        Yes, pricey but beats dead, and that was what was asked for.
                        Myself I'll never go back to rubber lines.
                        1980 XS1100G "Dolly G" Full Dresser (with a coat of many colors )
                        1979 XS1100SF (stock-euro mods planned)
                        1984 XV700L Virago (to be hot-modded)
                        1983 XJ750MK Midnight Maxim (semi-restored DD)
                        1977 XS650D ( patiently awaiting resto)

                        Sometimes it takes a whole tank of gas before you can think straight.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Diskman01 View Post
                          Yup. I did the math already. Its 169ish for ALL my lines (rubber). I can order the stainless ones on eBay for less than half. At least I got somewhere to start! Thanks for the original link!

                          Now I gotta find my banjo end diameters, angles, lengths and layouts to order SS lines.. sigh..

                          The banjo bolts are 10mm. And yeah, some of the banjo angles were weird. Seems like I had a 22.5 degree bend on one of my banjos. (1/2 a 45 degree) Just look at what's there already and it should be a piece of cake. Just remember on the front to allow an inch or two in your measurements for when your suspension extends out all the way. Or... run a string along your old one, then measure the string.

                          The bikes with the linked brakes like the XJ will be more involved, depending on what you want to do. I've disconnected mine, so the rear brake pedal only operates the rear brake. But honestly, in an emergency stop, the rear brake is pretty much useless anyway, so if you have to choose, get the front brakes done first, then you can figure out what you want to do to the rear.
                          Try your hardest to be the kind of person your dog thinks you are.

                          You can live to be 100, as long as you give up everything that would make you want to live to be 100!

                          Current bikes:
                          '06 Suzuki DR650
                          *'82 XJ1100 with the 1179 kit. "Mad Maxim"
                          '82 XJ1100 Completely stock fixer-upper
                          '82 XJ1100 Bagger fixer-upper
                          '82 XJ1100 Motor/frame and lots of boxes of parts
                          '82 XJ1100 Parts bike
                          '81 XS1100 Special
                          '81 YZ250
                          '80 XS850 Special
                          '80 XR100
                          *Crashed/Totalled, still own

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                          • #28
                            Oem

                            Originally posted by Courtney View Post
                            So after 33yrs, I'm looking at my brake lines and seeing them looking pretty good with no cracks, and flowing pretty easily, as opposed to my 43yr old VW bug brake lines which have swollen up inside and stopped fluid from returning to the master cylinder. Awesome way to have a line locker, but not what you want.

                            So who's comfortable riding on their antique original brake lines?
                            Mine are OEM from 1979, I ride like an old man, cuz I am an old man The manual says replace every 4 years due to Yamaha not wanting to be responsable for any I will replace with SS lines for the better brakeing and the years on these lines, but I must give Kudos for lines that are 34 years old and still working fine The posabilty of a line blowing out under hard breaking is real, and is reason enough to replace and if you are replacing, the SS are not much more $$$
                            1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
                            1980 XS1100 Special
                            1990 V Max
                            1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
                            1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
                            1979 XS750 Special (my 1st Special)
                            1974 CB750-Four



                            Past/pres Car's
                            1961 Catalina 389/1970 Torino GT 351/1967GTO 12to1 comp./ Roller cam/ T-10/ 456 gear/Tri-power/1967 GTO 400, 1969 Camaro, 1968 Z28, 2001 BMW M Roadster 0 to 60 in 4.5 sec. Jaguar XK8

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Courtney View Post
                              Man up guys, doing hospital time is a sign of masculinity.
                              I also look down the barrel of my Browning Hi-power to see if it's loaded too.

                              JK, of course it's a roulette game using old lines, and I am currently chatting with someone about a complete rubber replacement set. I was just curious to see who else has had their lines last this long besides me.
                              Browning Hi-Power, sweet, classic, single action, well balanced nine!
                              BAMN!

                              '81 XS1100H "Brutus"

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                              • #30
                                Ok I admit it. On two of my 3 runners I have original rear brake lines as far as I know...
                                Skids (Sid Hansen)

                                Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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