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    Hey guys! I'm just a nineteen year old 'punk kid' who has gotten into vintage bikes. My mechanical experience on a bike is pretty minimal but I've worked on cars for quite a while so I atleast know how to turn a wrench :P Anyway I look forward to your wisdom and advice! This is my 80 midnight special and the second set of pictures is what I want to turn it into.










    Now this, is what I want to turn my bike into I looove the two toned gas tank. Anyone have any ideas as to where I can get parts like this?





    Last edited by crazy steve; 03-31-2013, 08:06 PM. Reason: Fix photos
    80 LG

  • #2


    If you're pockets are deep, you can buy a cafe seat.

    Yamaha XS1100 Midnight Special XS Eleven cafe race seat

    Shipping from Vietnam can break the bank.

    Most of the stuff is available domestic from numerous cafe bike parts suppliers.
    Marty (in Mississippi)
    XS1100SG
    XS650SK
    XS650SH
    XS650G
    XS6502F
    XS650E

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    • #3
      There's pretty much zero available in the way of 'bolt-on' custom parts for these (and most vintage import bikes) so you'll be looking at a lot of custom fab work and/or adapting parts. Clip-on bars can be had pretty easily, but after that you'll be building most of what you need.

      For ideas, use the 'search' function in the toolbar above, click on 'advanced search' then type in 'cafe' in the keyword box. You'll get a ton of hits, happy reading.....

      And welcome!
      Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

      '78E original owner - resto project
      '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
      '82 XJ rebuild project
      '80SG restified, red SOLD
      '79F parts...
      '81H more parts...

      Other current bikes:
      '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
      '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
      '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
      Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
      Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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      • #4
        Welcome, for the love of God take an MSF Basic Riders Course.
        Nathan
        KD9ARL

        μολὼν λαβέ

        1978 XS1100E
        K&N Filter
        #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
        OEM Exhaust
        ATK Fork Brace
        LED Dash lights
        Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

        Green Monster Coils
        SS Brake Lines
        Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

        In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

        Theodore Roosevelt

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        • #5
          Originally posted by natebracken View Post
          Hey guys! I'm just a nineteen year old 'punk kid' who has gotten into vintage bikes. My mechanical experience on a bike is pretty minimal but I've worked on cars for quite a while so I at least know how to turn a wrench :P Anyway I look forward to your wisdom and advice! This is my 80 midnight special - - -
          Hi Nate and welcome,
          be advised by us old farts.
          We don't wanna see your name in the "In 'Memoriam" forum and you don't wanna die so fer Chrissake take a rider's course.
          The XS11 is an overweight top-heavy monster that runs out of brakes and steering way before it runs out of power.
          Your bike may have started out as a Midnight Special, the serial number will tell you for sure, but someone's been at it.
          All the gold-looking trim is gone except for the gold streak in the cast grab bar groove.
          the wheels should be gold, not black.
          The brake disks should be slotted but they ain't.
          The bars have been changed but everybody except Marty does that.
          Nevertheless, it's a nice looking bike.
          There's nothing "off the shelf" to help with getting the cafe look, it's strictly parts swapping and DIY.
          What I'd look at is:-
          Ditching the bars & sliding the fork tubes up through the triple trees just enough to put clip-ons on the stubs that stick up.
          This lowers the front end which reduces the fork trail which quickens the steering.
          Adding a TKAT fork brace will reduce the fork flex that'll show up more after doing that.
          Swap in a Standard tank. Drops straight on and holds more gas as well as looking more cafe-ish.
          Rear sets & bumstop. Use the "search" button to see what others have done.
          OTOH, the bike looks OK as it is and riding season is just around the corner. No time to meddle. Take the course and hit the road.
          Fred Hill, S'toon
          XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
          "The Flying Pumpkin"

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          • #6
            Originally posted by fredintoon View Post
            Your bike may have started out as a Midnight Special, the serial number will tell you for sure, but someone's been at it..
            I suspect that the only MNS parts are the sidecovers... The parts you noted missing include all the 'gold'-plated bits; swingarm pivot covers, gas cap, headlight rim, carb tops. Even the sissybar is a 'regular' part, as those were gold also; the indent is supposed to be black on all models. But it's still a pretty decent-looking bike and it appears that whoever did the mods gave some thought to it...
            Last edited by crazy steve; 04-01-2013, 03:38 PM.
            Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

            '78E original owner - resto project
            '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
            '82 XJ rebuild project
            '80SG restified, red SOLD
            '79F parts...
            '81H more parts...

            Other current bikes:
            '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
            '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
            '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
            Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
            Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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            • #7
              You need a new rear tire!That should not be ridden with the tread.
              1980 XS1100 SG
              Inline fuel filters
              New wires in old coils-outer spark plugs
              160 mph speedometer mod
              Kerker Exhaust
              xschop K & N air filter setup
              Dynojet Recalibration kit
              1999 Kawasaki ZRX1100
              1997 Jeep Cherokee 4.5"lift installed

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              • #8
                It will look like THIS in a few miles, then LOOK OUT!



                John
                John is in an anonymous city with an Alamo (N29.519227,W-98.678980)

                Go ahead, click on the bikes - you know you want to...the electrons are ready.
                '81 XS1100H - "Enterprise"
                Bob Jones Custom Navy bike: Tkat brace, EBC floating rotors & SS lines, ROX pivot risers, Geezer rectifier, new 3H3 engine

                "Not all treasure is silver and gold"

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by fredintoon View Post
                  - - - - Take the course and hit the road.
                  Hi Nate,
                  other posts have reminded me to add this:-
                  - - - but before you hit the road fer fuxake put a pair of new tires on it.
                  Fred Hill, S'toon
                  XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
                  "The Flying Pumpkin"

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                  • #10
                    helpful videos

                    part 1 of a 3 part series. if you can get your hands on a cheap welder, and have either the metal bending machine, or the patience to do it by hand, getting a nice strong seatpan is pretty easy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KT31eNdQaEI
                    1979 xs special, just finished the top end rebuild and then i still have lots of work.
                    progress thus far...
                    http://s1268.photobucket.com/albums/...t=IMAG0202.jpg

                    "If it runs bad, it's usually the carbs. If the tires go flat, I suspect the carbs. If the wind blows the bike over, the carbs were probably to blame. If my wife yells at me about something, I tell her to talk to the carbs" -Incubus

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                    • #11
                      love that chopped front fender too btw..
                      1979 xs special, just finished the top end rebuild and then i still have lots of work.
                      progress thus far...
                      http://s1268.photobucket.com/albums/...t=IMAG0202.jpg

                      "If it runs bad, it's usually the carbs. If the tires go flat, I suspect the carbs. If the wind blows the bike over, the carbs were probably to blame. If my wife yells at me about something, I tell her to talk to the carbs" -Incubus

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                      • #12
                        Cafe dude

                        You might find clipons to be a bit low for riding around town. I would experiment first. A set of flat bars could be more comfortable, but you will not be able to slide the forks up. A bullet style half fairing would add a racy touch.
                        You will likely need to move the pegs back as mentioned.
                        Usually the bikes with low clipon bars, also have low seats. The low seat changes the angle of the dangle. If you want a padded seat, the flat bars may be better. Would still look okay.
                        It is what the flying marshalls used to use at the IOM.
                        With very low bars, at warp speed the wind can hold up your upper body, and it all works, at impulse speed around town it is not so comfortable.
                        A tank bag gives you something to rest your tummy on, and store some gear.
                        All traditional cafe fair.
                        To get you in the mood I suggest " Just for kicks " by Mike Sarn.
                        Unkle Crusty

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                        • #13
                          As far as the rear tire goes, I got one shortly after taking those pictures that I took a couple months ago! And I know its not very original. The guy I bought it from showed me some of the original pictures before he blacked out the whole bike and I'm glad he blacked it out! I wasn't much of a fan of the black/gold scheme. But he game me a lot of the original parts including the gold rims just because he really didn't have anything he could do with them. And I also took a basic riders course and got 100% on my test, so thats cool right? and I NEVER ride without my leather jacket and a full face helmet, I definitely do not want to become road kill...
                          80 LG

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