Spark plug's. Champion VS NGK opinion

[POOLBOY]

Stock NGK number is BP6ES.
My local Farm and Fleet didnt have the correct NGK plugs. I bought Champion plug's @ $.99 each.Will they work ok untill I can get the NGK plug's??
Also, They had something like a BPR6ES-11 platnum plug's(NGK)
What the heck are they??
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[bkr]

Spark Plugs

Hey POOLBOY The R is for resisto

Hey POOLBOY The R is for resistor , keeps the snow off your tv. The platinum means more money. Never heard of this type of plug. bkr

[pgg]

Hey Poolboy a sparkplug is just a sparkplug don't matter a hoot what brand it is. Iridium - platinum - splitfire - all just a load of fancy (expensive) garbage in the real world!

[randy]

I've found that brand makes no difference in running, only the heat range is critical. But no matter what brand, if the counterman tells you they are "pre-gapped" you can bet money that they are not!

Excuse me, some brands do have differences in that the end caps screw on. Some AC plugs are made this way. If the end caps aren't tight it can make for some wacky running and long troubleshooting.

Moral of the story is : always check your gaps and your caps!

Randy

[Jerry]

Platinum plugs take less electrical energy to fire. They are generally used on high-revving engines where the ignition system may produce less voltage at high RPMs. Other advantages: improved resistance to erosion, resulting in longer service life and less regapping, and the smaller tip won't block the growth of the flame, giving an increase in performance.

[Hobbit]

sparkplugs

I agree with Jerry about the platinum spark plugs, they'll last longer.
I used to be a technical trainer for a major sparkplug company, that experience has made me an ABC brand sparkplug user. (Anything But Champion).

[pgg]

Hey Jerry, and Hobbit, I'm not convinced mate! These plugs are a modern innovation - I wonder; do the manufacturers claim they're designed for modern engines, or old engines, as modern high rev bikes must surely have state of the art ignition systems - loss of voltage at high revs shouldn't be an issue! Resistance to erosion - well, in reality I've run standard plugs literally for years and the only 'service' is the odd scrape with a wire brush.

Any increase in performance (how do they define 'performance'?) must be so miniscule as to be non-existant. Maybe I'm tight-fisted, but I'd never shell out extra bucks for something that makes not a shred of difference!

[Hobbit]

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Your right PPG, the difference is minimal to most of us. The platinum plugs also transfer heat faster than regular plugs. This allows the insulator of the plug to be longer (in order to maintain the proper heat range) therefore providing a longer nose on the plug that takes longer to foul.
For normal use, who cares. But manufactureres have to design the plugs to meet long term emmisions and leaner mixtures in today's cars.

[TopCatGr58]

Hey there Poolboy,

I've run N9yc Champions for years on mine, have the big bore kit, and they work just fine, many rallies and such, LDR's, in the rain, etc.. Was Running N11yc, but after finding out I was running lean, cut it back to keep from burning my new pistons up, along with upping the jet sizes and such.

[POOLBOY]

Plug's

I guess any new set of plug's is better than an old set of plug's.The reason I asked was,
I had a Toyota 4-Runner a couple of years ago.I did a tune up with the usual part's,but I put Champion plug's in instead of the OEM NGK plug's.
The truck ran like CRAP. It acted like it was flooding at idle, and missed like crazy at speed.Then I changed to Autolight plugs, and they had different symptoms.I dont remember clearly, now, what they were. I took the truck into Toyota for a scan, and they told me to never use anything but NGK in the engine.
I put the recomended NGK plug's in, and it ran fine.
What's up with that??
My local Farm and Fleet sell's Champion's for $.99 each, as opposed to $3.50 ea for NGK at the local bike shop.
P/S, I run NGK in my Mercury 2.4L performance outboard, and they run great.

[Jdwags]

When i was a factory outboard tech in the late 70's Evinrude and Johnson's came with champion "take outs" in them from the factory..

the recommended break in procedure was after 10 hours take em out, and throw them .. replace with ngk..

never had a problem with fouling plugs on those 2 cycles, when we did that...

[pgg]

I swing on the end of a chainsaw every day 8 hours a day week after week month after month year after year... if anything tests a sparkplug it's a goddam chainsaw! Champion, NGK, Bosch, no difference between any of them.

[randy]

Right, ppg. It's only the heat range that makes any difference.

Randy

[strom]

I guess you guys never heard of Bosna Super...
eh, well... NGK is the next best thing....

LP