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    After a long weekend of beating up my battery bc of my fuel filter. issues. i ended up jumpt starting it twice. off my.truck battery .it cutoff down the street no lights no power. turned it on a minute later lights power riding next stoplight blurp nno lights no poower i am exhausted from working on this bike all weekend its at the shop now any anythoughts
    79 Kenny Roberts Tribute

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    Sorry to hear about your tough luck this weekend. The Gurus here will recommend a trouble shooting regimen including installing a new fuse panel. Are you still running the old glass fuses? It could also be a ground issue. . Don't feel too bad - we had a major snowstorm last week and I woke up to -21 C yesterday morning. We are weeks away from hitting the road.
    81H Venture - hope to ride summer 2013
    79F Cafe Racer at Some Point;
    68 CB175 Sloper - Cafe Racer
    74 KZ400 - Restoration project nightmare
    62 BSA Super Rocket - In Pieces
    72 CB100 Super Sport - Not super or sporty but fun

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    • #3
      Yes they are glass. for my sanity it is noww out of my.hands and will now.cost.my.wallet. fyi my thread searchdoesn't.work so that's why i been askibv all these questions
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      • #4
        I would upgrade to the ATC fuse box that TC sells. He buys them in bulk and resells to members for basically no mark-up. For about $12 you get the new fuse box shipped to you with the 90 deg connectors for the wires. Very good deal IMHO.

        As for your problem. I would check the ignition fuse, also the key switch. Both can get troublesome. Clean the switch and ultimately replace the fuse box. I did a complete write up on cleaning the key switch.
        Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

        When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.

        81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
        80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


        Previously owned
        93 GSX600F
        80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
        81 XS1100 Special
        81 CB750 C
        80 CB750 C
        78 XS750

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        • #5
          First thing

          I'd do is get it back out of the shop before they work on it.
          Second thing would be to fully trickle charge the battery up to full range. These bikes run off the battery, not the generator. If the battery is too low you'll have nothing but problems.
          Third change all the fuses with new and clean up the holders until you get TC's fuse block replacement installed. Best thing you'll ever do.
          If you ride in traffic most of the time, stock regulators/rec don't start charging until 2.5 K and aren't fully charge to a bit after 4 K i believe. So stop and go without the ability to use higher rpm will slowly drain your battery over time. Geezer make a wonderful regulator that starts charging just off idle and is all in at 3K. It's the second best upgrade you'll make.
          By the way, unless your rich, paying a shop to run down an electrical issue will cost you as much as you paid for the bike.
          mack
          79 XS 1100 SF Special
          HERMES
          original owner
          http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps6932d5df.jpg

          81 XS 1100 LH MNS
          SPICA
          http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad305/mack-055/2.jpg

          78 XS 11E
          IOTA
          https://youtu.be/wB5Jfbp6SUc
          https://youtu.be/RaI3WYHSuWA



          Have recovery trailer and shop if you breakdown in my area.
          Frankford, Ont, Canada
          613-398-6186

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          • #6
            Going to get a new battery in fuses And put them inAt the shop before they r on the clock
            79 Kenny Roberts Tribute

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            • #7
              Originally posted by mack View Post
              I'd do is get it back out of the shop before they work on it.
              Second thing would be to fully trickle charge the battery up to full range. These bikes run off the battery, not the generator. If the battery is too low you'll have nothing but problems.
              Third change all the fuses with new and clean up the holders until you get TC's fuse block replacement installed. Best thing you'll ever do.
              If you ride in traffic most of the time, stock regulators/rec don't start charging until 2.5 K and aren't fully charge to a bit after 4 K i believe. So stop and go without the ability to use higher rpm will slowly drain your battery over time. Geezer make a wonderful regulator that starts charging just off idle and is all in at 3K. It's the second best upgrade you'll make.
              By the way, unless your rich, paying a shop to run down an electrical issue will cost you as much as you paid for the bike.
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              Hey Janz, I know you may have to take a step back from the temporary frustration that comes with this territory, we've all been there.

              As Mack suggested you may want to retrieve your bike and do the work yourself with, of course your support group right here at your fingertips.

              I know your somewhat mechanically inclined else you wouldn't have bought one of these Classics.

              There is (almost )no better feeling than to fix your own machine where you see and feel the difference in every little tweak.
              1980 XS1100G "Dolly G" Full Dresser (with a coat of many colors )
              1979 XS1100SF (stock-euro mods planned)
              1984 XV700L Virago (to be hot-modded)
              1983 XJ750MK Midnight Maxim (semi-restored DD)
              1977 XS650D ( patiently awaiting resto)

              Sometimes it takes a whole tank of gas before you can think straight.

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              • #8
                Good idea

                Originally posted by Janzellotti View Post
                Going to get a new battery in fuses And put them inAt the shop before they r on the clock
                I think that is a good idea If you cranked the batt till needing jumped a couple of times and it has some age on it, could easly have a dieing cell or conection cell / plate thing going on and that will kill the bike at low RPM's, next the fuse box, yes,yes,yes, solved MANY problems for me and cheap and easy fix, good luck with your bike
                1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
                1980 XS1100 Special
                1990 V Max
                1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
                1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
                1979 XS750 Special (my 1st Special)
                1974 CB750-Four



                Past/pres Car's
                1961 Catalina 389/1970 Torino GT 351/1967GTO 12to1 comp./ Roller cam/ T-10/ 456 gear/Tri-power/1967 GTO 400, 1969 Camaro, 1968 Z28, 2001 BMW M Roadster 0 to 60 in 4.5 sec. Jaguar XK8

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                • #9
                  The 80 and up models have a main fuse on the right side of the battery that will do that when blown... Hopefully the shop doesn't stick it to you to bad for the repair...

                  Geezer
                  Hi my name is Tony and I'm a bikeoholic.

                  The old gray biker ain't what he used to be.

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                  • #10
                    Got to the shop before they start. cjeck voltage on battery started jiggleing wires in fuse box shazam lights . it was a lose connect in fuse box. rode 50 miles no prob parked it for an hour and seems to pop and mis fire a little at above idol speeds
                    79 Kenny Roberts Tribute

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                    • #11
                      Good man

                      you just saved yourself lots of money. Now go ahead and contact TC for the fuse block, it will only take 30 minutes to install, this photo shows an adapter bracket I made but it isn't necessay.

                      mack
                      79 XS 1100 SF Special
                      HERMES
                      original owner
                      http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps6932d5df.jpg

                      81 XS 1100 LH MNS
                      SPICA
                      http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad305/mack-055/2.jpg

                      78 XS 11E
                      IOTA
                      https://youtu.be/wB5Jfbp6SUc
                      https://youtu.be/RaI3WYHSuWA



                      Have recovery trailer and shop if you breakdown in my area.
                      Frankford, Ont, Canada
                      613-398-6186

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                      • #12
                        Another question, do you have a volt/ohmmeter, (VOM), and know how to use it?
                        It will be a very useful tool when it comes to trouble shooting some of the problems associated with these bikes. Basic direct current, (DC), circuit trouble shooting is not that hard, and will serve you well in other areas of automotive problem solving.
                        This site is a good place to gain knowledge, if you don't know much about it.
                        If you do know much about it, this site is a good place to have alternate views expressed and argued about.
                        CZ

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                        • #13
                          I have ask a few questions in a short time and always gotten working advice. i am new to working on classic bikes .the more i know the the better it feels
                          79 Kenny Roberts Tribute

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Janzellotti View Post
                            Got to the shop before they start. cjeck voltage on battery started jiggleing wires in fuse box shazam lights . it was a lose connect in fuse box. rode 50 miles no prob parked it for an hour and seems to pop and mis fire a little at above idol speeds
                            i've been following along here and just wanted to say that this forum and its membership are the key reasons most of us have running XS11's out on the road...even though I am currently without my XJ...this site has been instrumental in my being able to keep the old bike running and out of the repair shop...Some very big gurus have worked on my bike and it never ceases to amaze me how folks are willing to come to your home or are willing to invite you to theirs...We have all reached the point(s) of frustration over fixing things and wanting to give in and take it to the shop...but you will pay dearly for it...and theres no guarantee that whatever was done was done the right way...nothing like having some help doing it yourself where you're sure its done right...
                            1980 XS650G Special-Two
                            1993 Honda ST1100

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                            • #15
                              Hey there Janz,

                              Good for you to get the bike back before you racked up $$ fees!!! I know it's easy for "us" guys to get something that we're vaguely familiar with and go start using it WITHOUT necessarily reading the fine manual! But there can be lots of features that we may not be aware of by not reading the manual.

                              SO...even though you know how to ride your bike, you're not too familiar with all of the little nuances in HOW the bike works, what can go wrong, the common symptoms, and how to troubleshoot to figure out what has gone wrong and then how to fix it. This is why we like to suggest that folks read ALL of the tech tips....from maintanence, repairs, mods, misc, etc....there's a ton of pearls of wisdom in there.

                              I have the fuseblocks/connectors in stock ready for shipping, and actually only $10.00 for USA, includes S&H regular USPS first class mail.

                              The SEARCH function DOES WORK....don't know why it would not work for you, what browser are you using? Works better to go to the Tech Disc. forum first, then click on the search...type in 2 or 3 key words and submit. The words need to be 3 or more letters long.

                              T.C.
                              T. C. Gresham
                              81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
                              79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
                              History shows again and again,
                              How nature points out the folly of men!

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