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  • mmatches1
    Truly XSive
    • Sep 2012
    • 121
    • Alberta, Canada

    #1

    81H with SH Parts

    I removed the wheel yesterday to replace the front bearings and check the brakes and discovered that the bike has SH brakes. The left and right fork covers that hold the headlight are also from an SH.

    Serial numbers say that my bike is a 1981 XS1100H but it seems to be a mish mash of parts. Someone mentioned that some of the 81's were made up of parts from different models in the last year of production and this appears to be the case.
    81H Venture - hope to ride summer 2013
    79F Cafe Racer at Some Point;
    68 CB175 Sloper - Cafe Racer
    74 KZ400 - Restoration project nightmare
    62 BSA Super Rocket - In Pieces
    72 CB100 Super Sport - Not super or sporty but fun
  • jetmechmarty
    Master of XSology
    • Nov 2003
    • 7761
    • Coldwater, Mississippi

    #2
    Is your axle in front of the forks or at the bottom? The SH has a leading axle.
    Marty (in Mississippi)
    XS1100SG
    XS650SK
    XS650SH
    XS650G
    XS6502F
    XS650E

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    • crazy steve
      XS-XJ Guru MODERATOR
      • Jan 2009
      • 7932
      • Beautiful outer Yelm, WA

      #3
      Originally posted by mmatches1
      ...Serial numbers say that my bike is a 1981 XS1100H but it seems to be a mish mash of parts. Someone mentioned that some of the 81's were made up of parts from different models in the last year of production and this appears to be the case.
      Some smaller stuff got 'mixed' between years, but not major assemblies. Very likely your bike had accident damage somewhere along the line and a PO replaced the 'Standard' forks with boneyard-sourced Special forks. Not uncommon....
      Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

      '78E original owner - resto project
      '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
      '82 XJ rebuild project
      '80SG restified, red SOLD
      '79F parts...
      '81H more parts...

      Other current bikes:
      '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
      '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
      '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
      Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
      Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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      • fredintoon
        Master of XSology
        • Mar 2004
        • 6795
        • Saskatoon SK

        #4
        Originally posted by mmatches1
        I removed the wheel yesterday to replace the front bearings and check the brakes and discovered that the bike has SH brakes. The left and right fork covers that hold the headlight are also from an SH.
        Hi Doug,
        seems you have a Frankenbike, it's easy to do with Yamahas as the parts swap like LEGO.
        Most Frankenbikes are collision rebuilds using whatever the bike breaker has that will fit.
        Some are done to suit the owner's preference, Standards into Specials because the owner likes the look.
        Specials with Standard gas tanks because the owner needs to go out of town.
        But a factory Frankenbike is a rare item indeed.
        Like Marty sez:- where's the axle?
        If you could post a photo we could better see what you have.
        Fred Hill, S'toon
        XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
        "The Flying Pumpkin"

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        • mmatches1
          Truly XSive
          • Sep 2012
          • 121
          • Alberta, Canada

          #5
          It has the forward axle like a special. As several have mentioned the original forks must have been swapped out. Too bad I have no idea who the previous owners were. It may have had many owners over 30 years.

          As for the brakes, are all the Yamaha pads that look like mine the taper type? I was looking at these as a replacement. Any thoughts?




          It is hard to tell from the add if the pads are tapered. Any other recommended sources? Thanks, Doug
          81H Venture - hope to ride summer 2013
          79F Cafe Racer at Some Point;
          68 CB175 Sloper - Cafe Racer
          74 KZ400 - Restoration project nightmare
          62 BSA Super Rocket - In Pieces
          72 CB100 Super Sport - Not super or sporty but fun

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          • mmatches1
            Truly XSive
            • Sep 2012
            • 121
            • Alberta, Canada

            #6
            These are the only ones that show the taper but they are more expensive. At least I know I am getting the correct type.

            81H Venture - hope to ride summer 2013
            79F Cafe Racer at Some Point;
            68 CB175 Sloper - Cafe Racer
            74 KZ400 - Restoration project nightmare
            62 BSA Super Rocket - In Pieces
            72 CB100 Super Sport - Not super or sporty but fun

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            • crazy steve
              XS-XJ Guru MODERATOR
              • Jan 2009
              • 7932
              • Beautiful outer Yelm, WA

              #7
              Originally posted by mmatches1
              It has the forward axle like a special. As several have mentioned the original forks must have been swapped out. Too bad I have no idea who the previous owners were. It may have had many owners over 30 years.

              As for the brakes, are all the Yamaha pads that look like mine the taper type? I was looking at these as a replacement. Any thoughts?




              It is hard to tell from the add if the pads are tapered. Any other recommended sources? Thanks, Doug
              Those two listings are the correct left/right pads. The other listing is for left side only...
              Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

              '78E original owner - resto project
              '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
              '82 XJ rebuild project
              '80SG restified, red SOLD
              '79F parts...
              '81H more parts...

              Other current bikes:
              '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
              '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
              '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
              Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
              Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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              • ExcessiveBiker
                XSive
                • Nov 2006
                • 60
                • Texas

                #8
                81 brakes

                Originally posted by mmatches1
                It has the forward axle like a special. As several have mentioned the original forks must have been swapped out. Too bad I have no idea who the previous owners were. It may have had many owners over 30 years.

                As for the brakes, are all the Yamaha pads that look like mine the taper type? I was looking at these as a replacement. Any thoughts?




                It is hard to tell from the add if the pads are tapered. Any other recommended sources? Thanks, Doug
                mmatches1,
                These are the correct special front brake pads, one listing for right and the other for left side. It takes four completely different pads to make a full set for these forks, they cannot be traded side to side by reversing them. The other add for PartsGiant pads is more deceptive, only calling the position as FRONT. If you look up the Vesrah part number on the web, you can identify which side the VD-216 model fits.

                ExcessiveBiker

                81 Venturer
                81SH

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                • mmatches1
                  Truly XSive
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 121
                  • Alberta, Canada

                  #9
                  Okay. Thanks. Are sintered pads an issue? Some say that they wreck the discs.
                  81H Venture - hope to ride summer 2013
                  79F Cafe Racer at Some Point;
                  68 CB175 Sloper - Cafe Racer
                  74 KZ400 - Restoration project nightmare
                  62 BSA Super Rocket - In Pieces
                  72 CB100 Super Sport - Not super or sporty but fun

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                  • crazy steve
                    XS-XJ Guru MODERATOR
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 7932
                    • Beautiful outer Yelm, WA

                    #10
                    Originally posted by mmatches1
                    Okay. Thanks. Are sintered pads an issue? Some say that they wreck the discs.
                    They are harder on the rotors compared to organics, but they won't 'wreck' the rotors either. You can see more rotor wear, but it can depend on riding style too. They're also known for being noisier (squealing) sometimes....
                    Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

                    '78E original owner - resto project
                    '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
                    '82 XJ rebuild project
                    '80SG restified, red SOLD
                    '79F parts...
                    '81H more parts...

                    Other current bikes:
                    '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
                    '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
                    '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
                    Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
                    Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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