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  • joeysr20det
    XSive
    • Jun 2008
    • 23

    #1

    Middle driven gear seal

    I'm rebuilding my engine. I've tracked down every seal and gasket I need expect the middle driven gear seal. Does anyone have a part number for it? Timken, National, etc?

    Just to clarify this seal is around the middle driven gear in the main case, not in the middle drive gear unit.

    Thanks for any input.

    Joey
  • bikerphil
    Master of XSology
    • Jan 2008
    • 8635
    • South Flori-DUH

    #2
    Here it is....

    2H7 (79) owned since '89
    3H3 owned since '06

    "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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    • joeysr20det
      XSive
      • Jun 2008
      • 23

      #3
      Thanks man. I appreciate it. I've been looking everywhere.

      I actually dug through the Timken book and measured out the seal, I think a Timken 710360 will work it's a 35x72x10. I'll post back when I get it to let everyone know. It's fun trying to find parts some times

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      • bikerphil
        Master of XSology
        • Jan 2008
        • 8635
        • South Flori-DUH

        #4
        If you can't find a generic replacement, this site says they have 1 left NOS but $38. Yamamama lists it as part obsolete.

        2H7 (79) owned since '89
        3H3 owned since '06

        "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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        • joeysr20det
          XSive
          • Jun 2008
          • 23

          #5
          Wow thats nuts. So i looked everywhere the Timken 710360 seems to be out of production. I did find that the Timken 710360 crosses to a SKF 13896. I've ordered one of ebay. I'll post back after I get it and install it.

          Thanks again guys.

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          • TomB
            XSive Maximus
            • Aug 2006
            • 967
            • Cumbria, UK

            #6
            $11 here

            They also say they have only one




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            Tom
            1982 5K7 Sport, restored to original from a wreck
            1978 2H9 (E), my original XS11, mostly original
            1980 2H9 monoshocked (avatar pic)http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r...psf30aa1c8.jpg
            1982 XJ1100, waiting resto to original

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            • joeysr20det
              XSive
              • Jun 2008
              • 23

              #7
              Hey guys. I just wanted to post back my results. The SKF 13869 seal works great. It fits very good. Like the other seals it does not have the outer lip that fits into the grooves, but it's a snug fit.

              Here's a picture for anyone doing an engine rebuild and is unsure of the seals to buy.



              The crank seals are Timken/National 223215, Timken/National 223230, and the middle driven gear seal is SKF 13896 *Editted*. The Timken/National seals are carried at most auto parts stores, and the SKF seal can be bought of ebay for about $10.

              I found somewhere that you should buy a Timken 223240 instead of 223230, but it did not fit snuggly in the hole at all. Do not buy the 223240.

              Thanks again for your help guys. This is such a helpful forum.

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              • Lamric
                XStremely XSive(Deceased)
                • Jul 2002
                • 410
                • Kenley, Surrey, England

                #8
                Originally posted by joeysr20det
                ...I did find that the Timken 710360 crosses to a SKF 13896...
                Originally posted by joeysr20det
                ...The SKF 13869 seal works great...
                Originally posted by joeysr20det
                ... the middle driven gear seal is SKF 13869...
                Good research. But, can I check - is this a 13896 or a 13869 ?
                Brian
                XS1100 LG "Mr T", SG "ICBM" & FJ1200
                Check out the XS Part Number Finder

                Be not stingy in what costs nothing as courtesy, counsel and countenance.

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                • joeysr20det
                  XSive
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 23

                  #9
                  Crap. Sorry about that; I tried to make sure I got them all right. I'll revise my thread.

                  I double checked my order slip and the middle gear seal is:

                  SKF 13896

                  Thanks for catching that.
                  Last edited by joeysr20det; 12-18-2012, 10:03 AM.

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                  • joeysr20det
                    XSive
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 23

                    #10
                    I tried to edit my post but I guess it's been too long and I no longer have the option to edit it. I reported the post; hopefully an admin will fix it.

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