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  • K&N-Any real difference?

    I am thinking about going to the K&N air filter. Those that have, have you seen/felt any real difference in performance? Also, what is the air box drill mod?

    MP
    1979 XS100SF
    1981 XS1100H Venturer
    K&N Air Filter
    ACCT
    Custom Paint by Deitz
    Geezer Rectifier/Regulator
    Chacal Stainless Steel Braided Brake Lines
    Chrome Front Rotor & Caliper Covers
    Stebel Nautilus Horn
    EBC Front Rotors
    Limie Accent Moves On In 2015

    Mike

  • #2
    Only real benefit I see for k&n filters is that they are cleanse and reusable. Saves Monet in the long run.

    Airbox drilling....don't waste your time. I covered the holes up in mine.
    Nathan
    KD9ARL

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    1978 XS1100E
    K&N Filter
    #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
    OEM Exhaust
    ATK Fork Brace
    LED Dash lights
    Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

    Green Monster Coils
    SS Brake Lines
    Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

    In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

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    • #3
      Good Point

      Yeah,

      I guess that you would have to have a really hopped up engine to see any real difference in air filters. The air box thing did not sound like a really good idea to me either.

      MP
      1981 XS1100H Venturer
      K&N Air Filter
      ACCT
      Custom Paint by Deitz
      Geezer Rectifier/Regulator
      Chacal Stainless Steel Braided Brake Lines
      Chrome Front Rotor & Caliper Covers
      Stebel Nautilus Horn
      EBC Front Rotors
      Limie Accent Moves On In 2015

      Mike

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      • #4
        Originally posted by natemoen View Post
        Only real benefit I see for k&n filters is that they are cleanse and reusable. Saves Monet in the long run.

        Airbox drilling....don't waste your time. I covered the holes up in mine.
        Ditto! You buy it only once.
        Marty (in Mississippi)
        XS1100SG
        XS650SK
        XS650SH
        XS650G
        XS6502F
        XS650E

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        • #5
          Jetting Change

          Is there a need to rejet carbs for the K&N filter? If so, how much more jet?

          MP
          1981 XS1100H Venturer
          K&N Air Filter
          ACCT
          Custom Paint by Deitz
          Geezer Rectifier/Regulator
          Chacal Stainless Steel Braided Brake Lines
          Chrome Front Rotor & Caliper Covers
          Stebel Nautilus Horn
          EBC Front Rotors
          Limie Accent Moves On In 2015

          Mike

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          • #6
            Shouldn't need to change jets, but watch the plug.
            Nathan
            KD9ARL

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            1978 XS1100E
            K&N Filter
            #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
            OEM Exhaust
            ATK Fork Brace
            LED Dash lights
            Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

            Green Monster Coils
            SS Brake Lines
            Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

            In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

            Theodore Roosevelt

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            • #7
              In my case, no rejet.
              Marty (in Mississippi)
              XS1100SG
              XS650SK
              XS650SH
              XS650G
              XS6502F
              XS650E

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              • #8
                K+N pods vs K+N filter replacement may give different results. I have pods one one bike that did indeed need rejetting. I have 3, yet uninstalled filter replacements here that I am dying to try. I have one with a drilled airbox and another with a stock airbox. As soon as I can figure out how to afford to have another bike (insurance wise) on the road I will try one out and see what I find.
                2-79 XS1100 SF
                2-78 XS1100 E Best bike Ever
                80 XS 1100 SG Big bore kit but not fully running yet.
                Couple of more parts bikes of which 2 more will live!

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                • #9
                  No Rejet

                  Ok, good info. Will not rejet and will keep an eye out on the plugs.

                  MP
                  1981 XS1100H Venturer
                  K&N Air Filter
                  ACCT
                  Custom Paint by Deitz
                  Geezer Rectifier/Regulator
                  Chacal Stainless Steel Braided Brake Lines
                  Chrome Front Rotor & Caliper Covers
                  Stebel Nautilus Horn
                  EBC Front Rotors
                  Limie Accent Moves On In 2015

                  Mike

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                  • #10
                    I have a K&N on all my vehicles just not on the bike yet and you dont feel much of a change in power unless you have more performance parts to go with it. It is bettor for the motor because it breaths easier and you never have to buy an other air filter again.
                    1978 xs1100E

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by natemoen View Post
                      Only real benefit I see for k&n filters is that they are cleanse and reusable. Saves Monet in the long run.

                      Airbox drilling....don't waste your time. I covered the holes up in mine.

                      goodob Nate! All the holes do is create more noise, plus they screw up the velocity affect coming from the snorkel........if you haven't cut it off.
                      81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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                      • #12
                        I did all three !!

                        Motoman, et al....
                        I've had the K&N filter, drilled airbox, and shortened snorkel for about a year and a half now. I cut the snorkel about 6 months after I installed the filter and drilled the box, and mainly to make it easier to remove the carbs. The only performance difference I notice is that the engine seems to breathe easier and when you roll on the power it's very smooth and instantly responsive. There's no hesitation or gaps in the delivery of it. Granted, I'm exhausting through a 4X1 Kerker and I do run my floats a little richer, but you twist and you go.!!
                        And yeah, the MPGs are not what they should be, and smelling the fuel fumes from the short snorkel is a bit unsettling, but they're small trade offs for having all that dependable HP at your behest.
                        So it's not so much a matter of an increase in performance, power, or speed, it's more a matter of how consistently the HP is delivered to you.
                        1980G Standard, Restored
                        Kerker 4 - 1
                        850 Rear End Mod
                        2-21 Flashing LED Arrays on either side of license plate for Brake Light Assist, 1100 Lumen Cree Aux Lights,
                        Progressive springs, Showa rear shocks
                        Automatic CCT
                        1980GH Special, Restored
                        Stock Exhaust, New Handlebars, 1" Spacer in Fork Springs, Automatic CCT, Showa Rear Shocks
                        '82 XJ1100 (Sold)
                        Automatic CCT, RC Engineering 4 X 1 Exhaust, K&N Pods, #50 Pilot Jets, YICS Eliminator. Sorely missed.

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                        • #13
                          The K&N filter was cheaper than a disposable replacement filter...and for what they want for the disposable filter, I believe the filter pleats should be a little less like recycled cardboard and a little bit more like appropriate filter media. No rejet required and running the stock, unmolested airbox. No noticeable change in performance...
                          80 SG

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                          • #14
                            THe engine breathes more easily. Filter washable. Good for 1 million miles according to K&N. I have one on my XJR1300, with other mods, and it definitely makes a difference.
                            XS1100F 1980 European model. Standard. Dyna coils. Iridium plugs. XS750 final drive (sometimes). Micron fork brace. Progressive front springs. Geezer regulator/rectifier. Stainless 4 into 2 exhaust. Auto CCT (Venturer 1300) SOLD. New project now on the go. 1980 European model.

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                            • #15
                              It is bettor for the motor because it breaths easier and you never have to buy an other air filter again.

                              I've read many opinions that say the engine breathes easier because it doesn't filter as well as other brands. Makes sense to me, but I have no proof.
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