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    on my way home today i got stuck in really bad stop and go traffic (mostly stop) and my clutch started to act up and then not to work. i then pulled over at a gas station and shut the bike off and let it sit for about twenty minutes to cool down. After that the clutch worked fine the rest of the way home. i was wondering if it acted that way because it got too hot or just me riding the clutch to inch forward about 5 feet then stop again ( i did have it in first most of the time i was stuck in traffic) My bike is an 81H and has an oil cooler, could the oil cooler be bad? thanks again in advance for the help
    xs1100 hartail bobber

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  • #2
    do u use synthetic oils? if so some may have "friction modifiers" and our bike used friction type clutchs and wont get along well.
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    • #3
      What do you mean "stopped working"?
      Greg

      Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

      ― Albert Einstein

      80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

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      • #4
        Sounds like ya overheated the clutch. Man I feel so sorry for y'all living in those backward states that don't allow lane splitting. You woulda been home long ago and yer clutch wouldn't have suffered.

        You could pull and clean the fibers with gas and a wire brush. Check the steels to be certain they are flat. But yer prolly fine. If it works, I'd ride 'er.

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        • #5
          thanks

          Originally posted by Shacknasty View Post
          Sounds like ya overheated the clutch. Man I feel so sorry for y'all living in those backward states that don't allow lane splitting. You woulda been home long ago and yer clutch wouldn't have suffered.

          You could pull and clean the fibers with gas and a wire brush. Check the steels to be certain they are flat. But yer prolly fine. If it works, I'd ride 'er.
          seems to be doing fine now, and i am riding the bike almost every day back and forth to work. so far since i have finished the bike (begining of the summer), i have put over two thousand miles on her and love every second of it, and just love how these bikes handle and the acceleration is unbelieveable.
          xs1100 hartail bobber

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          • #6
            clutch

            Originally posted by BA80 View Post
            What do you mean "stopped working"?
            when i say stopped working i mean that with the clutch engaged all the way, the bike would still pull forward and i either had to physically hold the bike back or hold the brake. just as it started that, i then pulled into the gas station to let it cool.
            xs1100 hartail bobber

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            • #7
              no

              Originally posted by lee_dutcher View Post
              do u use synthetic oils? if so some may have "friction modifiers" and our bike used friction type clutchs and wont get along well.
              i dont use synthetics at all. regular oil
              xs1100 hartail bobber

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              • #8
                You need to recheck your adjustment. I've ridden my bike in 115º heat in heavy traffic and had no problems other than me and the engine overheating.

                You may have the throwout, (under the right rear outer cover) adjusted too loose or your cable too loose.

                You should only have about 3/8" or a little less play in the lever at the bars before you feel the clutch spring resistance. The lever under the cover should be allowed to release to it's stop when the hand lever is at reast but should move approximately 1/16 to 1/8 before contacting the pressure plate but your cable needs to be tight enough to move it whenever you move the hand lever.

                Clear as mud?
                Greg

                Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                ― Albert Einstein

                80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                The list changes.

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                • #9
                  Some times I have seen people adjust the clutch to where it slightly drags to get rid of the slip from synthetic oil. If it does not dissengage it will at times chatter like something is hanging and when hot just not dissenguage at all. You should readjust the clutch and make sure it disengages fully. If you leave it to where it drags it can warp plates and burn the frictions. You may find that if you adjust it to where it fully disengages then you will have slip at full throttle. If this happens I would suggest ordering a set of barnett springs pulling the clutch cleaning and putting the springs in. Topcatgr has a great pictorial in the help tips. If it has no slip then great you fixed it with adjustment. The reason I mentioned slip is many overcompensate for the slip by having clutch to tight.

                  Getting the adjustment right is a matter of feel you may have to do it a few times to get the feel of the touch point right when turning the screw in.
                  To fix the problem one should not make more assumptions than the minimum needed.

                  Rodan
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by ViperRon View Post
                    Getting the adjustment right is a matter of feel you may have to do it a few times to get the feel of the touch point right when turning the screw in.
                    That is a good point right there Ron.
                    Greg

                    Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                    ― Albert Einstein

                    80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                    The list changes.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Shacknasty View Post
                      Man I feel so sorry for y'all living in those backward states that don't allow lane splitting. You woulda been home long ago and yer clutch wouldn't have suffered.
                      No thanks! Watched a kid the other day get clipped in the helmet by a grandpa that just decuded to hang his hand out the window at the wrong moment.
                      Nathan
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by natemoen View Post
                        No thanks! Watched a kid the other day get clipped in the helmet by a grandpa that just decuded to hang his hand out the window at the wrong moment.
                        So who was hurtin"? Grandpa's hand or the kid on the scoot? I love lane splitting. It took a while to get used to when I moved here from a non-lanesplitting state. After a very short time I realized how much safer it is.

                        Imagine if you could slip past all the cars waitin at a stop light and when you take off, using the motorcycle's superior accelerating ability, you are able to position yerself in the empty space ahead of the pack of cars. Here, we can split lanes or even use the right or left turn lanes to get to the front at stoplights. It is so much safer to be away from the pack of cages!

                        I have been hit from behind sitting in stopped traffic on the freeway. If it happens in a car it's no big deal, but on a bike you could be a spot on the asphalt. Now I split lanes any time the traffic is stop and go or moving less that 25 mph. Once ya get the hang of it, ya know the rhythm of the road, you'll never go back to sitting like a target in traffic.

                        Now, back to the clutch problem...

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                        • #13
                          Lane splitting

                          Back when they first come out with the Honda Goldwing I test drove one. The only time I ever tried lane splitting and had plenty of room and the other bikes went threw fine till them kids opened the car door. It was a bad day for me. One wreckless driving ticket a jump on my insurance cash payment of the motorcycle deductible. Thank god I did not hit a kid.
                          To fix the problem one should not make more assumptions than the minimum needed.

                          Rodan
                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khm6...liHntN91DHjHiS
                          1980 G Silverbird
                          Original Yamaha Fairfing and Bags
                          1198 Overbore kit
                          Grizzly 660 ACCT
                          Barnett Clutch Springs
                          R1 Clutch Fiber Plates
                          122.5 Main Jets
                          ACCT Mod
                          Mac 4-2 Flare Tips
                          Antivibe Bar ends
                          Rear trunk add-on
                          http://s1184.photobucket.com/albums/z329/viperron1/

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                          • #14
                            Clutch adjusted

                            Got my clutch adjusted , Using the methode in the tech section. Everything seems to be fine but , It doesn't seem to have the same acceleration As it did before the adjustment. Have I done something wrong?
                            Last edited by Nightengale; 08-13-2012, 03:21 PM.
                            xs1100 hartail bobber

                            http://i1169.photobucket.com/albums/...-38-36_563.jpg

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                            • #15
                              Hey John,

                              You may have set it a little too tight, and so now the clutch is probably slipping a bit. As stated it can sometimes take a few adjustment procedures to get it "just right". It can be tricky keeping the adjusting center screw from turning when you're trying to set the outer lock nut.

                              T.C.
                              T. C. Gresham
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