Tubeless?

[Tat2demon]

Putting new tires on tonight and I see the rear has a tube in it. Im guessing the front will too.

The wheel is originally a tube wheel but I see these black plugs so Im not sure if someone made this tubeless and continued to use a tube, or is this the way the tube wheel actually is. I cant tell if they are a very hard plastic or metal.

[Tat2demon]

Also is there any mod need to run tubeless on the front tire?

[Shacknasty]

I would be more worried about the large crack visible in the second photo!

[Tat2demon]

Lol no. That's one of several scratches I put in it when I started losing my temper trying to get the tire off. :/

[mmaddix]

I'm pretty sure those are the holes for the wheel locks. Most people take them off. Some people do put plugs in there and run them without tubes

[Tat2demon]

The plugs are definitely plastic. Guessing they're probably not air tight?

[BA80]

You can plug them so they are airtight. Just use a bolt with flat washers and rubber washers like a tubless valve stem does. You'll need one of those also.

That works fine for the rear rim but for the front one you'll need a tubless type rim becouse the bead seats are different for the front tube type rim and there is a possibillity of the tire rolling off the bead seat and suddenly going flat. Not good on the front.

[DAVINCI]

I'm pretty sure those are the holes for the wheel locks. Most people take them off. Some people do put plugs in there and run them without tubes

WRONG!

Do that, might as well set your GPS for the nearest graveyard. If you really want to run tubeless, get a set of tubeless rims. Sure, it'll cost you a couple of hundred, but what is your life worth? Only you can say.

[BA80]

The rear rim is the same casting, Randy, and can be used tubless. The front rim however has different bead seats on the tube type rim.

We had a dicussion about this a while back.

http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread...t=tube+tubless

[trbig]

WRONG!

Do that, might as well set your GPS for the nearest graveyard.

See... and I thought just running a tire with 40psi in it would cause that?

[DAVINCI]

The rear rim is the same casting, Randy, and can be used tubless. The front rim however has different bead seats on the tube type rim.

We had a dicussion about this a while back.

http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread...t=tube+tubless

Well, to each his own, but how could it be the same casting if one says 'tubeless' and one does not? Maybe the same bead profile, but did they go through the same quality control and inspection process? I wonder. My bike came with tube rims and I switched both to tubeless rims back in '04. For me, just one less thing to wonder about.

And yes, Todd, running 40PSI will upset the space-time continuum and you may just fall off the face of the earth pfftttt!

[crazy steve]

Wheel differences here: http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35442

The rear wheel is the same casting, the 'suitable for tubeless' marking is stamped into the rim, not cast....

[BA80]

Well, to each his own, but how could it be the same casting if one says 'tubeless' and one does not? Maybe the same bead profile, but did they go through the same quality control and inspection process? I wonder.

Yeah, that and not drilling the bead lock bolt holes is the only difference. The lands are still there if you look at the tubless rear rim, just not drilled.

[Tat2demon]

I ended up just putting the tube back in. Didnt want to mess around with it.

[TomB]

I've been interested in the Tubeless vs tubed debate for a while, I have the same misgivings that most others have about safety so went for the XJ11 tubeless wheels, and as you say, "Tubeless" is stamped into the rims, not cast.

I have a few front wheels and XS11's and have looked at the differences between them, I have both types of front wheel shown in Steves link, one he describes as tubeless and one he describes as tube type, I thought they were both tube type as they both came with tubes.

The tube wheel has that odd curved recess for the tube

This makes sense, until you look at the rear wheel pics in Steves post/link which is clearly a tube type wheel coz it has the bead locks, and yet it is machined like the tubeless front, IE without the curved recess for the tube. So does this really matter???

Even more confusing to draw any sort of conclusion on is Yamahas take on it all. If you look on Brians (Lamric) parts site Yamaha numbers for a front wheel are the same for tubed and tubless if you look down the list of other bikes the front wheel fits Clicky or dya think thats the -10 on the end of the part number??

I'm now going to look at my two front wheels in more detail when I change tyres.



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