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    Okay

    Seems my cylinders are shaped like a funnel and I need to install over sized pistons. However, I'm told Yamaha does not make them any more. Any ideas?

    1979 xs 100 special
    Tim Lowe
    "Teck"
    1979 xs1100 Special

  • #2
    O/S Pistons

    Wiesco big bore kit's are still available. Never done it yet myself.
    There is a huge long thread on it. Supposed to come with pistons,rings, pins and big bore head gasket. Cost is in the $550.00 range. Wiesco should have a web site. Why don't you goggle it and check out.
    Ken/Sooke
    78E Ratbyk
    82 FT500 "lilRat"

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    • #3
      I hope this works...

      http://www.wiseco.com/PDFcatalogs/ps04-yamaha.pdf

      It is a PDF file but it should open if not delete some of the address and try again...

      Good Luck
      Tom
      2004 FJR1300abs 311,000 kilometers and counting
      gone,but not forgotten 1978 XS11E

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      • #4
        Oh and yes you should have adobe reader to see it. They are manufactured in Ontario but your local dealer should be able to get them for you. You may have to supply him with the part numbers.
        Tom
        2004 FJR1300abs 311,000 kilometers and counting
        gone,but not forgotten 1978 XS11E

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        • #5
          I've heard that rumor too Got mine for a reasonable price from Pro-Flo of Pensacola Florida in the US. I think it was cheaper than Wiseco's list price, even including shipping. Same price for either size kit.

          Includes everything you need except tools, labor, and the machining...and of course experience, but you get the along the way
          Last edited by Snow; 02-18-2004, 07:07 PM.
          1979 XS11F Standard - Maya - 1196cc (out of order)
          1978 XS11E Standard - Nina - 1101cc
          http://www.livejournal.com/~xs11

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          • #6
            Here's a copy from their web page along with the link:

            XS1100, 4 Cyl. 1179cc 78mm - 55.85mm
            10.25:1
            W-K1179
            $365.95

            **The 78mm I believe is a typo, that kit uses 74mm diam!

            Kit includes, 4 Pistons, Ring Sets, Wrist Pins, Circlips and 1 Graphite Head Gasket 1196cc 78mm - 55.85mm

            10.25:1
            W-K1196
            $365.95

            Pro-Flo in Fla. kits web page

            HTH, a happy Big Bore user!!
            T. C. Gresham
            81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
            79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
            History shows again and again,
            How nature points out the folly of men!

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            • #7
              big bore

              Well, I'm going to use a big bore kit. Thanks for all the help. I was wondering,...will this increase the overall power of the bike?
              Tim Lowe
              "Teck"
              1979 xs1100 Special

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              • #8
                Power Increase

                The big-bore kit will increase power in three ways.

                1. Fresh pistons and rings will increase compression and combustion pressures.= More power.

                2.The big bore pistons I believe have a compression ratio of 10.25 to 1. = More power. (quite a bit by the way.)

                3. Your engine displacement is bigger. = More power.

                You will likely have to use high test fuel but that cost increase will be offset with better fuel economy. Unless you start to be throttle happy. Then fuel mileage will be the same or a little less. The higher compression will develop more power out of each drop of fuel. It will create more BTU's for each drop of fuel.
                Ken/Sooke
                78E Ratbyk
                82 FT500 "lilRat"

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                • #9
                  1196 kit gives more 'urge'. Felt at low and midrange. Great for touring. Not much top end boost on its own. A few engine tweaks needed to tap the kits' potential. Still good on it's own though.

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                  • #10
                    What is the smallest kit available? I am contemplating doing it to one of my spare engines, but I don't want to do anything too radical that will require to much modification to other systems. I already have a Jardine 4-2 header, and am running the carbs from the Organ Donor, so they can be tweeked, but I don't want to get too radical.
                    But on the other hand, there is this FJ1100 (swmbo's) in my garage that I would like to beat just once!

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                    • #11
                      Hey there John,

                      The 1179cc kit is the smallest one, however it is still a whopping 74mm diameter vs. the 71.5 stock and still bigger than the max Yamaha recommended allowed stock overbore of 72.5! I'm running stock cams, carbs with 3 sizes larger jets due to Indy Filters and 4-1 pipes, but that's about all the tweaking I've done, and it runs great, plenty of power and topend, possibly a little loss of low end grunt due to the 4-1's, but I don't like to run it like a Harley!!

                      And this will allow you room for another boring up to the 1196 if these ever fail!!!! It does run a little warmer with the thinner cylinder sleeves(stock) but after richening up the ratio, it's okay. Just try not to get stuck in any severe stop and go traffic in the middle of summer with 95+temps.....the smell of burning oil from the heads isn't a pleasant one!!!! BTDT!!
                      T. C. Gresham
                      81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
                      79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
                      History shows again and again,
                      How nature points out the folly of men!

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                      • #12
                        Thanks T.C. You just saved me about $175. I'm ordering my kit tomorrow.
                        Matt
                        1980sg-Stocker-- Sold
                        1980sg- Cruise Missile- Sold to RODS454
                        1990 ATK 604- Ditch Digger
                        2005 BMW K1200S- Killer Bee
                        2005 Suzuki GSX-R 1000- trackbike

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                        • #13
                          Beat the wife

                          Hey John , sneak out and unplug one of the FJ,s plug wires cause thats the only way Your gonna beat her!! ........MITCH
                          Doug Mitchell
                          82 XJ1100 sold
                          2006 Suzuki C90 SE 1500 CC Cruiser sold
                          2007 Stratoliner 1900 sold
                          1999 Honda Valkyrie interstate
                          47 years riding and still learning, does that make me a slow learner?

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