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    Oil Temperature Gauge

    Have any of you guys tried the RR Oil Temperature Gauge.

    You can see it at: http://www.louis.de/index.php?topic=...034127&lang=en

    I believe the correct one for the XS would be 10034157.

    I have one of the shorter ones on my KZ and it is a pretty good indicator.

    Any thoughts would be appreciated.

    Aches n Pains
    Last edited by crazy steve; 06-29-2012, 11:13 AM.
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    Sold all my XS's to Eastcoaster but still love to keep up with you guys. This is the best cycle forum on the web.
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  • #2
    Unfortunately, that type oil temp gauge won't work on the XS. Because of the angle of the fill plug, the probe will hit the internal engine case long before it gets to the oil sump....

    I'm going to try to fit an electric temp gauge to one of mine, but this requires installing a sender bung in the oil pan. It might also be possible to install a sender somewhere in the plumbing for a oil cooler.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by crazy steve View Post
      Unfortunately, that type oil temp gauge won't work on the XS. Because of the angle of the fill plug, the probe will hit the internal engine case long before it gets to the oil sump....

      I'm going to try to fit an electric temp gauge to one of mine, but this requires installing a sender bung in the oil pan. It might also be possible to install a sender somewhere in the plumbing for a oil cooler.
      Well, apparently it works with the 5K7 European xs11.
      Nathan
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      • #4
        Yeah, they list it... but $75 is a lot to spend to find out it won't fit. I don't see how any 'dipstick' type temp gauge could work on the XS/XJ unless the probe is flexible, and then you've got the worry of it getting ate up by the clutch basket...
        Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

        '78E original owner - resto project
        '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
        '82 XJ rebuild project
        '80SG restified, red SOLD
        '79F parts...
        '81H more parts...

        Other current bikes:
        '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
        '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
        '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
        Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
        Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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        • #5
          Agreed it isn't the best setup.

          I would rather have some type of electronic setup and a real gauge up by the speedo. Personally I don't see a gauge in a non visible location of any use at all.
          Nathan
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          1978 XS1100E
          K&N Filter
          #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
          OEM Exhaust
          ATK Fork Brace
          LED Dash lights
          Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters
          Green Monster Coils
          SS Brake Lines
          Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

          In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

          Theodore Roosevelt

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          • #6
            Originally posted by natemoen View Post
            Agreed it isn't the best setup.

            I would rather have some type of electronic setup and a real gauge up by the speedo. Personally I don't see a gauge in a non visible location of any use at all.
            I agree... should be able to come up with some electronis and tie it into a line for an oil cooler..?
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            • #7
              CHT gauge is better

              I think a Cylinder Head Temperature gauge like they use on racing gokarts and aircooled aircraft is a better gauge to have than oil temp. I too though about oil temp, but oil temp won't reflect as quickly an overheated head from driving in traffic, etc.

              I looked and probes that sit as a ring under spark plugs are not too expensive though the gauges cost a bit.

              Anyway that is my $.02


              John
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              • #8
                Originally posted by jwhughes3 View Post
                I think a Cylinder Head Temperature gauge like they use on racing gokarts and aircooled aircraft is a better gauge to have than oil temp. I too though about oil temp, but oil temp won't reflect as quickly an overheated head from driving in traffic, etc.

                I looked and probes that sit as a ring under spark plugs are not too expensive though the gauges cost a bit.

                Anyway that is my $.02


                John
                I wonder if you can use any electronic temp gauge to use the sensor or if it has something special in the cylinder head temp ones.
                Nathan
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                1978 XS1100E
                K&N Filter
                #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
                OEM Exhaust
                ATK Fork Brace
                LED Dash lights
                Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters
                Green Monster Coils
                SS Brake Lines
                Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

                In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

                Theodore Roosevelt

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                • #9
                  Same type

                  Nate I think the sensor thermocouple must likely match the type of gauge to get an accurate reading.

                  Here is an interesting install with pics on an aircooled engine:
                  http://www.aerocorsair.com/id62.htm

                  The sensors if you search CHT on eBay are only $30-40 bucks but gauges are $50+.

                  john
                  John is in an anonymous city with an Alamo (N29.519227,W-98.678980)

                  Go ahead, click on the bikes - you know you want to...the electrons are ready.
                  '81 XS1100H - "Enterprise"
                  Bob Jones Custom Navy bike: Tkat brace, EBC floating rotors & SS lines, ROX pivot risers, Geezer rectifier, new 3H3 engine

                  "Not all treasure is silver and gold"

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by jwhughes3 View Post
                    Nate I think the sensor thermocouple must likely match the type of gauge to get an accurate reading.

                    Here is an interesting install with pics on an aircooled engine:
                    http://www.aerocorsair.com/id62.htm

                    The sensors if you search CHT on eBay are only $30-40 bucks but gauges are $50+.

                    john
                    Wouldn't that be a standardized thing though?
                    Nathan
                    KD9ARL

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                    1978 XS1100E
                    K&N Filter
                    #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
                    OEM Exhaust
                    ATK Fork Brace
                    LED Dash lights
                    Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters
                    Green Monster Coils
                    SS Brake Lines
                    Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

                    In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

                    Theodore Roosevelt

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by natemoen View Post
                      Wouldn't that be a standardized thing though?
                      Very rarely, that's why there's so many models of sending units...
                      Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

                      '78E original owner - resto project
                      '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
                      '82 XJ rebuild project
                      '80SG restified, red SOLD
                      '79F parts...
                      '81H more parts...

                      Other current bikes:
                      '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
                      '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
                      '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
                      Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
                      Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by crazy steve View Post
                        Very rarely, that's why there's so many models of sending units...
                        But with a under the spark plug ring, wouldn't it have to based on the electrical properties of the metal of the ring (probably copper) and the rate of the current flowing through it?

                        Since every ring like that I have seen just connects to the wiring of the gauge I wouldn't think it would matter, but i have been wrong before!
                        Nathan
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                        1978 XS1100E
                        K&N Filter
                        #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
                        OEM Exhaust
                        ATK Fork Brace
                        LED Dash lights
                        Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters
                        Green Monster Coils
                        SS Brake Lines
                        Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

                        In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

                        Theodore Roosevelt

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                        • #13
                          But that might be the difference between a cylinder head temp gauge and other temp gauges...
                          Nathan
                          KD9ARL

                          μολὼν λαβέ

                          1978 XS1100E
                          K&N Filter
                          #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
                          OEM Exhaust
                          ATK Fork Brace
                          LED Dash lights
                          Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters
                          Green Monster Coils
                          SS Brake Lines
                          Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

                          In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

                          Theodore Roosevelt

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