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I would like to try to fix my xs 1100 middle gear bearings. There is a clicking sound when I turn the rear wheel by hand in nutural. There is a weering sound in all five gears comming from that location which starts at 30mph. It almost sounds like the gears are not meshing corectly. This sound goes away with less power and when slowing down in any gear or just pulling in the cluch. The question is does the middle gear case come out without unbolting the engine from the frame. The bike has 88700 miles on it. thanks for any help.
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yes it does..81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top. -
Hi John, welcome to the site. I personally have never taken out a middle drive so I have to input on that... Look on ebay for a replacement, they can be had for as little as $15-$30 plus shipping.
When is the last time you changed your gear oil?'79 XS11 F
Stock except K&N
'79 XS11 SF
Stock, no title.
'84 Chevy K-10 "Big Blue"
GM 350, Muncie SM465, NP208, GM 10 Bolt with 3.42gears turnin 31x10.5 Baja Claws
"What they do have is an implacable, unrelenting presence and movement that bespeaks massive power lurking behind paint and chrome. They don't wail like a screeching ninja, the don't rumble like a harley. They just growl like a spactic, stressed out badger waiting to rip your face off and eat your soul." Trainzz~RIP~Comment
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If it's making noises it's probably too late. Like WMarshy said they are still quite plentiful on ebay.
The middle drive is really easy to change. Just pull back the boot over the ujoint and theres 4 bolts holding it to the flange of the MD that need to come out then there ar just the 7 allen head bolts that hold it to the case.
Drain the oil first or you'll have a big mess.Greg
Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.
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Are you sure about that? From what I've seen, the middle gearbox can be removed without draining the oil from it because it's a sealed unit with oil seals on the shaftsOriginally posted by BA80 View PostXS1100F 1980 European model. Standard. Dyna coils. Iridium plugs. XS750 final drive (sometimes). Micron fork brace. Progressive front springs. Geezer regulator/rectifier. Stainless 4 into 2 exhaust. Auto CCT (Venturer 1300) SOLD. New project now on the go. 1980 European model.Comment
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You better look again James. With the MD off you can look in and see the gears and the drain plug for it isn't even in the unit itself, it's in the case.Greg
Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.
The list changes.Comment
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Any repair parts needed (assuming you can still get all of them) will cost more than buying a good used unit....
You also need special tools to work on those, you can't just slap new parts in them. There's a set-up process that has to be followed too.Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two
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'81H more parts...
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Yep, thasafact.Originally posted by crazy steve View Post
The main outside bearing cost near a hundred dollars, and is hard to find.
The shims are unobtainium, although I have cut some from paint cans, (.010 in). The condition of the gear faces will be the determining factor as to rebuildability.
Download the middle drive manual from Catatoinc Bugs site, and see if you have the tools and expertise to attempt it. BTDT NF (not fun)
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The drain plug for the oil us in the lower engine case, rather than the middle drive.Originally posted by James England View PostNathan
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#45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
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LED Dash lights
Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters
Green Monster Coils
SS Brake Lines
Vision 550 Auto Tensioner
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Aah right. My memory's failing me then!Originally posted by BA80 View Post
No doubt you're correct.
Talking of making a mess..... I changed the oil on my bike. Have a guess.... Yep, I 'filled' it with oil and had forgotten to put the drain plug back in. That comes from working on bikes, tired, at 2am!XS1100F 1980 European model. Standard. Dyna coils. Iridium plugs. XS750 final drive (sometimes). Micron fork brace. Progressive front springs. Geezer regulator/rectifier. Stainless 4 into 2 exhaust. Auto CCT (Venturer 1300) SOLD. New project now on the go. 1980 European model.Comment
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Originally posted by James England View PostAah right. My memory's failing me then! No doubt you're correct.
Talking of making a mess..... I changed the oil on my bike. Have a guess.... Yep, I 'filled' it with oil and had forgotten to put the drain plug back in. That comes from working on bikes, tired, at 2am!
LOL....BTDT.....
Greg
Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.
The list changes.Comment
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If you get a used one, make sure it has not been disassembled. You want a complete unit as it came original.Skids (Sid Hansen)
Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.Comment
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What are you going to do with your old one? I'm going to explore what it takes to build a chain drive like xsChop was offering and could use a complete unit to take measures from...
Anyone reading this, if you have one of Chops chain drives not yet installed PM me please.'79 XS11 F
Stock except K&N
'79 XS11 SF
Stock, no title.
'84 Chevy K-10 "Big Blue"
GM 350, Muncie SM465, NP208, GM 10 Bolt with 3.42gears turnin 31x10.5 Baja Claws
"What they do have is an implacable, unrelenting presence and movement that bespeaks massive power lurking behind paint and chrome. They don't wail like a screeching ninja, the don't rumble like a harley. They just growl like a spactic, stressed out badger waiting to rip your face off and eat your soul." Trainzz~RIP~Comment
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