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    I have a leaking float that i put some quicksteel on but havent put gas in the carbs yet. I figure it will just disolve even though it says impervious to chemicals on it. I was wondering if the float would work with one pontoon. I think i am going to order the plastice ones so they will all be new but was wondering if i could run one pontoon until i get the others. It seems to me that it would still do the same thing. Anyone ever try it instead of buying a new float or to ride until it got there? My local cycle shops here in WV dont carry anything for our bikes and they want $46 for a float.
    Jeff
    77 XS750 2D completely stock
    79 SF XS1100 "Picky" stock with harley mufflers

  • #2
    Originally posted by jjz28 View Post
    I have a leaking float that i put some quicksteel on but havent put gas in the carbs yet. I figure it will just disolve even though it says impervious to chemicals on it. I was wondering if the float would work with one pontoon. I think i am going to order the plastice ones so they will all be new but was wondering if i could run one pontoon until i get the others. It seems to me that it would still do the same thing. Anyone ever try it instead of buying a new float or to ride until it got there? My local cycle shops here in WV dont carry anything for our bikes and they want $46 for a float.
    Won't work with only half. The plasic floats require some modification in the older carbs or they will stick.

    IMHO stick with what it came with.
    Greg

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    • #3
      Solder it

      If its brass, solder it. Just dont get crazy and weigh it down.


      John
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      • #4
        i tried soldering an old lawn mower one first and i cant solder worth crap. Couldnt even get any solder on it. Cleaned it, sanded it and still couldnt get it.
        Jeff
        77 XS750 2D completely stock
        79 SF XS1100 "Picky" stock with harley mufflers

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        • #5
          did you use flux with the solder? That cleans any inpurities.
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          • #6
            i used rosin core with flux.
            Jeff
            77 XS750 2D completely stock
            79 SF XS1100 "Picky" stock with harley mufflers

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            • #7
              it should work,copper is generally easy to solder.It must be very clean though
              FOXS-XS11SG

              2009 Suzuki V Strom 650,Adventure in Touring,I call her "Smooth" SW Motech engine guard,Coocase top case w/ LED brake and tail lights,20" MRA touring screen w/adjusable bracket,Grip heaters,fender ex-tender,Givi hard sidebags

              1980 XS11SG-sold
              1999 Vulcan classic-sold
              1982 XJ 650-sold

              Old is only a state of mind......John

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              • #8
                The problem with soldering sealed containers like that is that the air inside heats up and then you get an air stream rushing out of the hole and that keeps the solder from covering the hole.

                When I soldered mine I put the whole float into a glass of cold water and just had the small area to be soldered sticking up out of the water. Clean the area well and then coat it with flux and heat and dab the solder on.
                Nathan
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by jjz28 View Post
                  i used rosin core with flux.
                  Rosin core on electrical only.
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                  • #10
                    +1 on what Motoman said,I have heard that one before Nate,but never tryed it.
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                    1980 XS11SG-sold
                    1999 Vulcan classic-sold
                    1982 XJ 650-sold

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                    • #11
                      New brass floats are $17.50 each....

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                      • #12
                        Thanks phil those same ones are $20 on ebay with same picture. Well, i got lucky though, a guy who lives about a mile from me has a 79 like mine that has been sitting outside forever and his dad has a MNS. They have tons of carb parts so now i have a good float and just put it in. Gonna ride to work tommorow, yeehaw. Another thing, if i knew it was so easy to fix a leaky petcock, i would have done it the first day i owned the bike, its fixed now. So, i had a leaky petcock and a bad float on the same side so i lost almost a whole tank of gas out the airbox and in the crankcase. All of thats fixed now and fresh fluids. Thanks guys.
                        Jeff
                        77 XS750 2D completely stock
                        79 SF XS1100 "Picky" stock with harley mufflers

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Cuda 69 View Post
                          +1 on what Motoman said,I have heard that one before Nate,but never tryed it.
                          If you don't keep the rest of the float cool it heats up real fast. Since the whole float is soldered together it will just melt every joint and fall apart.
                          Nathan
                          KD9ARL

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                          1978 XS1100E
                          K&N Filter
                          #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
                          OEM Exhaust
                          ATK Fork Brace
                          LED Dash lights
                          Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

                          Green Monster Coils
                          SS Brake Lines
                          Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

                          In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

                          Theodore Roosevelt

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                          • #14
                            Ageed

                            +1 on what Nate says . . . I found out the hard way when one fell apart on me as I tried to solder a pin-hole leak!
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                            • #15
                              I used to make and repair jewelry and an old trick to join/repair broken rings without removing the stone is to bury the ring in fine sand, jewel facing down with the affected area sticking up. The sand becomes a heat sink & dissipates the heat and the stone does not crack. If you do this with your float, I suspect you will be happy with how you can now solder without grief.

                              It's an old jewelers trick and it works.
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