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  • 81xsproject
    XS-XJ Super Guru
    • Nov 2004
    • 3185
    • Fortuna, CA

    #1

    Butterfly Shaft Seals

    If anyone is interested in OEM seals cheaper than MikeXS seals, which have recently become very poor quality, please let me know. More buyers=cheaper price. thanXS
    '81 XS1100 SH

    Melted to the ground during The Valley Fire

    Sep. 12th 2015

    RIP
  • jetmechmarty
    Master of XSology
    • Nov 2003
    • 7765
    • Coldwater, Mississippi

    #2
    Jessie,

    Which seals?

    2A2-14997-00-00 is shown for the E.

    256-14997-00-00 is shown for the SH.

    I am assuming the first number is correct for the earlier style carb (78 & 79), and the second pn for the later syle (80 & 81) For some reason, the early seals cost twice what the later ones do.

    That may mave something to do with unsatisfactory performance of Mike's XS seals, as theirs appear to be universal fit. FWIW, anything made of rubber that I have acquired from Mike's XS has been inferior quality. I doubt that poor quality of these seals is a new thing.
    Marty (in Mississippi)
    XS1100SG
    XS650SK
    XS650SH
    XS650G
    XS6502F
    XS650E

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    • 81xsproject
      XS-XJ Super Guru
      • Nov 2004
      • 3185
      • Fortuna, CA

      #3
      As far as I have seen in my research, all the BS34 and BS38's take the same seals. There are also some modern carbs in current use that take the same ones. I have both carbs laying around, I will take some caliper measurements.
      '81 XS1100 SH

      Melted to the ground during The Valley Fire

      Sep. 12th 2015

      RIP

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      • crazy steve
        XS-XJ Guru MODERATOR
        • Jan 2009
        • 7932
        • Beautiful outer Yelm, WA

        #4
        Yamaha shows two part numbers for these (early/late) but from looking at the carb bodies I have, I can't see any difference between the two....

        Which seal are you looking at getting? And do you have a projected unit cost?
        Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

        '78E original owner - resto project
        '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
        '82 XJ rebuild project
        '80SG restified, red SOLD
        '79F parts...
        '81H more parts...

        Other current bikes:
        '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
        '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
        '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
        Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
        Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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        • 81xsproject
          XS-XJ Super Guru
          • Nov 2004
          • 3185
          • Fortuna, CA

          #5
          These are the 256 seals and I am estimating somewhere around $4 each shipped (taped in envelope snail-mail). Mikes want $5.50 Plus $6.93 shipping makes them $6.37 each for a full set of 8.
          '81 XS1100 SH

          Melted to the ground during The Valley Fire

          Sep. 12th 2015

          RIP

          Comment

          • jjz28
            XS-XJ Guru
            • Apr 2012
            • 1023
            • Beckley, W. Va.

            #6
            I got mine at del rio motorsport for somewhere around $2 a piece.
            Jeff
            77 XS750 2D completely stock
            79 SF XS1100 "Picky" stock with harley mufflers

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            • crazy steve
              XS-XJ Guru MODERATOR
              • Jan 2009
              • 7932
              • Beautiful outer Yelm, WA

              #7
              Mikes are $5.50 a pair (or $2.75 each), the same price as boats.net. Makes me wonder if he's just reselling the same part...
              Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

              '78E original owner - resto project
              '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
              '82 XJ rebuild project
              '80SG restified, red SOLD
              '79F parts...
              '81H more parts...

              Other current bikes:
              '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
              '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
              '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
              Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
              Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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              • 81xsproject
                XS-XJ Super Guru
                • Nov 2004
                • 3185
                • Fortuna, CA

                #8
                oh, your right. Good deal from boats. I checked it out and they have a sister site that lists if for less AND you can get a promo discount "meetsister" makes them $2.37 before shipping. Good find!! That's way better than what I was working on. DISREGARD, PEOPLE!!! Thanks for letting us know, Steve. I know where I'll be getting my seals now.
                '81 XS1100 SH

                Melted to the ground during The Valley Fire

                Sep. 12th 2015

                RIP

                Comment

                • 81xsproject
                  XS-XJ Super Guru
                  • Nov 2004
                  • 3185
                  • Fortuna, CA

                  #9
                  Originally posted by crazy steve
                  Mikes are $5.50 a pair (or $2.75 each), the same price as boats.net. Makes me wonder if he's just reselling the same part...
                  I read a lot of bad stuff on the 650 site about them not fitting well, so I would be surprised if they were OEM. Plus, I personally would be advertising that they were OEM if the were. But, then again, I have yet to find an alternate seal that size besides OEM/Mikes.
                  '81 XS1100 SH

                  Melted to the ground during The Valley Fire

                  Sep. 12th 2015

                  RIP

                  Comment

                  • jetmechmarty
                    Master of XSology
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 7765
                    • Coldwater, Mississippi

                    #10
                    Yamaha Sports Center sells the 256 seal @ $2.43 ea. The 2A2 seal is $4.92 ea. At twice the price, I expect there must be a difference. I know if it was my carburetor, I would be installing the proper seal, (if I can get it.)
                    Marty (in Mississippi)
                    XS1100SG
                    XS650SK
                    XS650SH
                    XS650G
                    XS6502F
                    XS650E

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