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    Ok I need some advise again, my 79 xs1100f rides so hard. every bump or expansion joint i hit all most bangs. I noticed the coil over the rear shock is turned as tight as it can go. I am sure they are the oem shock. I was thinking of turning that back down at least one click to start with. If i do that what effect will the have with two riders. I have seen a number of pics of other bikes in this forum and they almost all have the coil adjusted as loose as they can. also what tire pressure do you run. I have new tires front and rear. I wonder if just a few pounds would help?

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  • #2
    The affect it will have with 2 riders totally depends you and your significant others girth.

    Dropping the preload down will help with the comfort. I have mine set on the lowest level because I'm a skinny 180 and I hardly ever ride 2 up for any distance. I sacrifice some handling with it there but I'm old and like to be comfortable.

    I had a set of XJ air adjustable shocks on the rear until one started leaking and I ran into difficulties resaling them. I really liked them and I have another set I'm going to install here this week. The XJ shocks are the best of both worlds I think.

    BTW...nice looking F.
    Greg

    Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

    ― Albert Einstein

    80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

    The list changes.

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    • #3
      Hey Virsten,

      Just curious, are you feeling the bumps more in your arse or in your hands?

      Like Greg said, reducing the preload "can" help to soften the ride, but can also allow more movement which could allow it to bottom out on a bigger bump?

      Tire pressures were almost a hot button topic thread a while back. You will want to use the specs on the tire's sidewall, not the owner's manual. Many folks use about 40 PSI for the rear, a little less for the front, but this also will vary with tire brand, etc. and the load they are under. YMMV!

      T.C.
      T. C. Gresham
      81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
      79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
      History shows again and again,
      How nature points out the folly of men!

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      • #4
        The fairing jump quite a bit and I also feel the bump in the back. I think I will adjust the rear shock and check the tire pressure to see what lithely are.

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        • #5
          That sure looks like '78 march maroon with s Pacifico fairing.

          I want that trunk!
          Nathan
          KD9ARL

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          1978 XS1100E
          K&N Filter
          #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
          OEM Exhaust
          ATK Fork Brace
          LED Dash lights
          Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

          Green Monster Coils
          SS Brake Lines
          Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

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          • #6
            Your bike is over 30 years old. The technology is even older. At the very least you need shocks and springs.

            If you want your bike set up to handle well and still soak up the bumps, I strongly suggest you avoid progressive wound springs. If your laden sag set correctly your ride will be very harsh. Straight rate springs will not be so harsh. I have Progressive shocks on mine and it is set up to carve corners. If I run over a dime, I can tell if it's heads or tails.

            I sourced my springs from Traxxion Dynamics. I'd say they're about perfect. I highly recommend you get one of their technical people on the phone for advice. They understand you're not spending a fortune on an old bike and they have economical options.
            Marty (in Mississippi)
            XS1100SG
            XS650SK
            XS650SH
            XS650G
            XS6502F
            XS650E

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            • #7
              Originally posted by TopCatGr58 View Post
              Tire pressures were almost a hot button topic thread a while back. T.C.
              Oil, tires, and air pressure.....
              Greg

              Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

              ― Albert Einstein

              80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

              The list changes.

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              • #8
                Natemoen, it is a pacifico fairing. But the title sayes 79. Don't think I could sell it as I drag to much stuff with me to work. Although in a different thread I have been having trouble with the rack that it sits on. It keeps breaking.

                I just turned the spring tensioner down one notch. The tires have 30 psi by my gauge. I suppose our lousy streets could have something to do with the ride. I guess I will try it.

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                • #9
                  That is definitely not the Macho Maroon of a 78, I do believe they made some 79s with that deeper maroon. I like that color better really.

                  You can definitely try loosening up the pre-load as others have stated. I recently aquired a set of the XJ air shocks and have installed them on my XS. They do soften up the ride a bit.

                  But it is alot like in a car, for the most part, any car that handles like it is on rails, feels like it has metal wheels and you can feel every pebble in the road. Softer the ride, the less agile the handling.
                  Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

                  When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.

                  81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
                  80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


                  Previously owned
                  93 GSX600F
                  80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
                  81 XS1100 Special
                  81 CB750 C
                  80 CB750 C
                  78 XS750

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                  • #10
                    Air Shocks are your friend on a full dressed bike. You can adjust the pressure in minutes depending on what riding your going to do... and whens the last time the forks were serviced? JAT
                    Don
                    1979 XS1100SF "Old Man" bought by my Dad brand new in 79, customized in 80 with Vetter, Standard tank, and touring seat. I inherited in 02 when Dad passed. Been riding it since 09. No resto, bike is a survivor...

                    2007 RoadStar 1700 Midnight Silverado "The Black Pearl" Cobra Slash-downs, K&N filter. More mods to come


                    old:
                    1989 kawi ex500
                    1996 yzf-r6
                    1999 yzf-r1
                    2001 kawi zx-6r
                    2000 Ducati 748
                    2002 YZF-R1
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                    • #11
                      On THAT scoot, from the softest, go to three on the spring for two-up and 3 on the rebound dampening, if those shocks have the same 5position dampening as the 81Standard. That's dampening, not spring pre-load. Run 40psi in those modern tires as what's stated on most tires is 42psi anyways. If it still has the air forks, run 9-12psi in them. This should get it close riding 2-up. BTW, very nice 78!
                      81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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                      • #12
                        I had similar complaints on my '79SF Bagger and just installed some air shocks from a 2003 Harley bagger. These were very easy to adapt and made the ride a whole bunch softer. It also reduced the driveline snatch by over half.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by motoman View Post
                          ... BTW, very nice 78!
                          It's a '79 F... the named that color burgundy red. It does look similar to maco just deeper tone. My Dad has one with that color, it is verynice looking.
                          '79 XS11 F
                          Stock except K&N

                          '79 XS11 SF
                          Stock, no title.

                          '84 Chevy K-10 "Big Blue"
                          GM 350, Muncie SM465, NP208, GM 10 Bolt with 3.42gears turnin 31x10.5 Baja Claws

                          "What they do have is an implacable, unrelenting presence and movement that bespeaks massive power lurking behind paint and chrome. They don't wail like a screeching ninja, the don't rumble like a harley. They just growl like a spactic, stressed out badger waiting to rip your face off and eat your soul." Trainzz~RIP~

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by TopCatGr58 View Post
                            - - - You will want to use the specs on the tire's sidewall, not the owner's manual. - - -
                            Hi TC,
                            aren't the sidewall specs the maximum recommended pressure, at which it can carry it's maximum recommended load?
                            Didn't you really mean that the other way round?
                            Fred Hill, S'toon
                            XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
                            "The Flying Pumpkin"

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                            • #15
                              When i fist started riding my bike, there are 2 strips out on the highway about 100 yards apart and i hit the first one and thought i almost broke my back (not really but it felt hard), then i hit the second one, same thing. I noticed my tire was low so i put in the 40psi of air and was riding a come up on those strips and kinda lifted my but cause i knew they were there but it didnt "hit hard" like it did before. It mad a world of difference just in tire pressure.
                              Jeff
                              77 XS750 2D completely stock
                              79 SF XS1100 "Picky" stock with harley mufflers

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