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  • '80 Special FD vs. '82 XJ FD

    I have a buddy member who rides an '80 Special. I told him I run 4k rpm @65 mph and get 42 mpg. He said his takes 5k to get 65 mph. He did not say what his mpg is, but from the look on his face, it wasn't near 42. My question is this: would installing an '82 FD on an '80 bring the rpm's down for him? I have an extra FD I will give him if it does.
    "Galaxy" 1982 XJ1100J, 1983 XV handlebars, new fusebox, homemade SS wind screen and SS muffler heat shields, homemade grab bar extension and luggage rack. XS750 140 mph speedo, '81 Venture oil cooler, V-Max ACCT, Yahman YICS Eliminator, 1st and 2nd gear Dremel fix.

  • #2
    The stock FD on the XJ and the XS were all the same. That component was nto chnaged throughout the models or years, with the exception of the paint scheme.

    Take a look at the back of the FD on your XJ though, See if you see YJ7 as the first three in a model number on it. You may well have an XS750 FD installed on your XJ.
    Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

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    81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
    80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


    Previously owned
    93 GSX600F
    80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
    81 XS1100 Special
    81 CB750 C
    80 CB750 C
    78 XS750

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    • #3
      The only # I could find was 2H701. Whazzat?
      "Galaxy" 1982 XJ1100J, 1983 XV handlebars, new fusebox, homemade SS wind screen and SS muffler heat shields, homemade grab bar extension and luggage rack. XS750 140 mph speedo, '81 Venture oil cooler, V-Max ACCT, Yahman YICS Eliminator, 1st and 2nd gear Dremel fix.

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      • #4
        That would be the stock FD, 2H7 being the same number as the 78 E models started with.

        Now, the other possibility is the speedo being off substantially as to the RPM difference. I know on one of mine I noticed it was almost ten MPH off. When I was supposedly doing 70 in a 65 I was about blowing past everything.

        As to the milage, well, these beast do have a habit of drinking heavily if your right hand is jumpy. So if your friends riding style is more aggressive, he would find his mpg lower. I know you can find threads on here discussing MPG and find it range from low 30s to low 40s. I rode about 90 miles with a fellow XSive once where we both filled up before leaving, he ran out of fuel about half way there. He had a fuel issue and tried to re-gap his plugs to compensate. He corrected the plug gap and made the return trip with fuel to spare.
        Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

        When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.

        81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
        80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


        Previously owned
        93 GSX600F
        80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
        81 XS1100 Special
        81 CB750 C
        80 CB750 C
        78 XS750

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        • #5
          Front tire size can "adjust" a speedo. Running a 110/90/19 Metzeler, my speedo is about 1 mph slow (checked by GPS) @ 60, so it's close enough to dead-on. With a 100/90/19 Dunlop it was about 5 mph fast at cruising speeds. I like the 110 tire. No clearance problems noted.
          1980 XS 11 Special: The King of Kong, 9th wonder of the world. Pacifico fairing, chopped shield, Yamaha hard bags, Diamond seat, T-Kat fork brace, XJ top end, YICS Eliminator, '80 carbs from Spyder Cycle Works, K&N Air filter, Fuse block, stainless steel valves & reg/rect from Oregon MC Parts. Raptor CCT, XJ air shocks, 850 FD, Sportster mufflers, Standard handle bar, Tusk Bar Risers, SS braided brake lines. Cat Eye speedometer. HID projector beam headlight, LED running lights.

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          • #6
            Hey XJKid,

            Your friend needs to check his clutch for slippage, that could also cause higher rpms and loss of mileage. Have him ride it in 5th gear at 60mph and crank the throttle wide open and see if the rpms rise without the bike speeding up or increasing mph. Aside from the clutch adjustment at the engine, his springs may be sprung/weak. Also is he using full synth vs. dino oil, that can also contribute to slippage with a weak clutch!

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            T. C. Gresham
            81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
            79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
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            • #7
              I'll query him on those points. What about the trans/middle drive. Are they the same from '80 to '82?
              "Galaxy" 1982 XJ1100J, 1983 XV handlebars, new fusebox, homemade SS wind screen and SS muffler heat shields, homemade grab bar extension and luggage rack. XS750 140 mph speedo, '81 Venture oil cooler, V-Max ACCT, Yahman YICS Eliminator, 1st and 2nd gear Dremel fix.

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              • #8
                Everythign about the drive train is pretty much identical on all model/year of XS-XJ. Yes, there were some engine changes as to cams and pistons and the YICS system, internal to the engine. The ignition system was modified in later years to use 3 ohm coils. But they should all pretty much bolt right up and provide the same performance from the level of speed at RPM and or MPG.
                Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

                When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.

                81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
                80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


                Previously owned
                93 GSX600F
                80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
                81 XS1100 Special
                81 CB750 C
                80 CB750 C
                78 XS750

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