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    I picked up my xj on a trade. I had like 80 dollars in the deal. I have got through a few problems. Changed the middle drive thanks to a part from ba80 thanks Greg. A new tire and some brake cleaning and a few other things now onto cosmetic. I bought a couple different buffers wheels for my grinder and my chrome and alumimum parts and coming along very nice. Well the left side of my gas tank was caved in right on the emblem. I repaired the emblem thanks to a thread on here. Super glue and baking soda worked killer. There is a dent the size of a beer can that was pushed in about a inch. I tried prying it out from the inside via the gas guage hole and i was afraid of denting the hole and the sending unit not sealing. I brought the tank into work and decided i would cut out the entire dent and massage it back into shape and weld it back in. I got it really close to perfect.Fired up the welder and turned it down started to weld then turned it down some more. Ended up with a wire speed of 108 and energy setting of 9.8amps. i jumped around with my spot welds and used a brazing rod to fill in some gaps. It seems never ending i clean off my welds and find more holes. It just plain burns through its like welding a pop can.Well i think its toast im done welding it seems every time i cover a hole i find two more. On the other hand i called cycle recycle in indy. They have a tank for 60 bucks. I'm heading there first thing tomorrow. Finding that tank was like trying to find bigfoot riding a unicorn.Iwas litterally laughed at by the guy at D and A cylcle salvage. The guy at cycle recycle said on the phone said its clean inside with only one small dent just in front of the seat on the side. im thinking my old tank could be sealed and a little body filler to smooth her out. so maybe ill pick up a set of side covers too and i can change her color when ever i want. Or sell off a matching set later. Anyone know or a good tank sealer? I hear red kote works well.
    1982 xj 1100
    "The Ape"
    http://youtu.be/AiQ8CqclHr4

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    Any dents like that I normally cut a small hole maybe 1" diameter in the bottom of the tank, or somewhere in the tunnel underneath, then use a piece of wooden dowel with slightly rounded end carved on (my missus moans coz the yard brush handle is ideal).

    With the dowel though the hole and against the dent slowly and very gently hitting the dowel with a hammer against the dent inside until the dent is gone leaving slightly rippled metal ready for a thin skim of filler and repaint.

    As the 1" hole is underneath out of sight you can use a disc bigger than the hole to weld over, this is easier to weld seal.
    Tom
    1982 5K7 Sport, restored to original from a wreck
    1978 2H9 (E), my original XS11, mostly original
    1980 2H9 monoshocked (avatar pic)http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r...psf30aa1c8.jpg
    1982 XJ1100, waiting resto to original

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    • #3
      Red-Kote is my person favorite but I hear caswell also has a good one that I might try here soon.
      Nathan
      KD9ARL

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      1978 XS1100E
      K&N Filter
      #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
      OEM Exhaust
      ATK Fork Brace
      LED Dash lights
      Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

      Green Monster Coils
      SS Brake Lines
      Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

      In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

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      • #4
        dent puller



        I will try this dent puller from amazon coz mine also has a dent.

        http://www.amazon.com/Unknown-Northe.../dp/B0000AX7ER

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        • #5
          disregard prev post , found a better and cheaper one

          at www.dingking.tv/ for $19.95 there's a demo video also .

          that's where I will purchase my kit. :

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          • #6
            Originally posted by natemoen View Post
            Red-Kote is my person favorite but I hear caswell also has a good one that I might try here soon.
            Hey nate where can I buy red kote at? I have been looking for it with no luck.
            1982 xj 1100
            "The Ape"
            http://youtu.be/AiQ8CqclHr4

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            • #7
              Here is their website

              http://damonq.com/Red-Kote.html

              They say o'rileys auto parts has it but I have never seen it there, never asked though either.
              Nathan
              KD9ARL

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              1978 XS1100E
              K&N Filter
              #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
              OEM Exhaust
              ATK Fork Brace
              LED Dash lights
              Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

              Green Monster Coils
              SS Brake Lines
              Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

              In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

              Theodore Roosevelt

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              • #8
                i saved my original tank and i got the new one ready for paint. im going to line both tanks then i will sell one sooner or later. i think i will red kote both of them. i thought about tank cream but i read that red kote is easier and cheaper and works just as well.
                1982 xj 1100
                "The Ape"
                http://youtu.be/AiQ8CqclHr4

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by XJfan1 View Post
                  Hey nate where can I buy red kote at? I have been looking for it with no luck.
                  I ordered a Qt. from O'rilleys for $26 this Saturday. Nobody there knew anything about it. One guy never even heard of tank liners/sealers. Anyways if you do go to them this link will help you out. http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/de...yword=red-kote
                  1980 XS1100G
                  -4:2 exhaust
                  -Pods
                  -Who knows what the future holds..

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                  • #10
                    Ive gotin a quart of it from the O'rilleys down town. You have to ask fror it its not usualy on the shelf and its not something they sell alot of. Its usualy sitting under an inch of dust in the back. It works great tho Ive never had problems with mine.
                    80 XS1100G Black Betty (Daily Driver)
                    79 XS1100SF (Buddys Project)
                    82 XJ750 Maxim (Fathers Bike)
                    81 CB750F SS (Buddys Project)
                    06 GSX600F Sold! (Was Mine)
                    81 XS1100 Failed Bobber Project (Mine)
                    81 XS1100 Parts (Mine)

                    Grip it, Rip it, and Stick it!!!

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                    • #11
                      Pops-A-Dent

                      My original tank has a fairly large dent in the left side, so I got one off of ebay for $50 + $30 shipping. Unfortunately the guy that sold it neglected to include the fact that there was a small dent (size of a couple dimes end to end) on the side he didn't photograph for the ad. I had a Pops-A-Dent kit on the shelf and thought I'd give it a shot.

                      It turned out quite well. I "popped" the dent 4 times and it virtually disappeared.
                      Guy

                      1980 XS1100G - Frankenstein - resurrected from the impound lot
                      1991 Suzuki GS500E (not running yet)
                      2003 Burgman AN400 - Blue Belle
                      2005 Burgman AN400 - Silver Belle

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                      • #12
                        My neighbor is a self employed body guy and stopped painting because the paintless dent repair business is so good. I've watched him pop dents out with the real version of these tools and its pretty neat. He always prays for Hail storms. As heavy as these tanks are I'm a bit skeptical on the paintless method especially if the metal is stretched or creased but I guess its worth a try. I have a couple in the XJ that have no creases and are somewhat large but not deep at all and are probably good candidates
                        1970? Honda Z50... gone
                        1974? Yamaha 100 Enduro... gone
                        1974 Honda CB200... gone
                        1981 Yamaha Virago 750... gone
                        1993 Honda Shadow 1100... gone
                        2008 Honda VTX 1800F
                        1982 Yamaha XJ1100J w/850 final, Raptor ACCT
                        1979 Yamaha XS1100SF "Chewey" Raptor ACCT

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by XJfan1 View Post
                          i saved my original tank and i got the new one ready for paint. im going to line both tanks then i will sell one sooner or later. i think i will red kote both of them. i thought about tank cream but i read that red kote is easier and cheaper and works just as well.
                          I did a tank with Kreme which turned out well and held up but I never liked the fact that Acetone turns it back to liquid. Always wondered is some gas additive would dissolve it. Next time I'm using red kote, it cures and holds up well, its highly recommended in the antique tractor clubs
                          1970? Honda Z50... gone
                          1974? Yamaha 100 Enduro... gone
                          1974 Honda CB200... gone
                          1981 Yamaha Virago 750... gone
                          1993 Honda Shadow 1100... gone
                          2008 Honda VTX 1800F
                          1982 Yamaha XJ1100J w/850 final, Raptor ACCT
                          1979 Yamaha XS1100SF "Chewey" Raptor ACCT

                          http://www.johnsoldiron.com

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by WSL91 View Post
                            My neighbor is a self employed body guy and stopped painting because the paintless dent repair business is so good. I've watched him pop dents out with the real version of these tools and its pretty neat. He always prays for Hail storms. As heavy as these tanks are I'm a bit skeptical on the paintless method especially if the metal is stretched or creased but I guess its worth a try. I have a couple in the XJ that have no creases and are somewhat large but not deep at all and are probably good candidates
                            when i repaired my tank i was looking at the metal thickness through the petcock and gasguage sending unit openings. they weld in flanges from the factory for strength. the sheet metal thickness of the tank is suprisingly thin. lots thinner than sheet metel on the average car or truck skin. i didnt realize it was so thin till i cut a hole the size of my hand it the side of my tank.i gave my tank and side covers to a buddy to paint at work tonight "we both work 3rd shift" im sitting here biting my nails wondering how its going. i had about ten hours in my body work.she was smooth as glass when it left my garage. im hoping it looks the same way with pearl blue metallic and 4 coats of clear on it.
                            1982 xj 1100
                            "The Ape"
                            http://youtu.be/AiQ8CqclHr4

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