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  • Nightengale
    XSive Maximus
    • Jun 2011
    • 521
    • Hampton, VA.

    #1

    vaccume advance question

    is there any reason the vaccume advance is connected to the number two carb, because i am setting my fj carbs to work with the vaccume advance and wanted to make sure it worked as it should. my thinking is that it shouldnt matter which carb it is connected to. Any advice would be greatly appreciated, i just want to make sure i am doing it right.
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  • jjz28
    XS-XJ Guru
    • Apr 2012
    • 1023
    • Beckley, W. Va.

    #2
    I am not sure about that but i do know the connection on #2 is metered because i hooked my advance to the carb boot nipple and it started clanking because of too much vacuum so the one on the #2 carb is just the right amount of vacuum at the right time. It also makes a huge difference on how the bike runs with a load. My bike would rev awesome until i put it in gear to take off then i would have to rev it to move until i figured out my vacuum was unhooked then it ran great when i hooked it up.
    Jeff
    77 XS750 2D completely stock
    79 SF XS1100 "Picky" stock with harley mufflers

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    • BA80
      Doctor of XSology
      • Oct 2010
      • 9980
      • Tulsa, Ok

      #3
      As long as the vacuum is ported, that is no vacuum at idle, it shouldn't matter which carb you use.
      Greg

      Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

      ― Albert Einstein

      80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

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      • Nightengale
        XSive Maximus
        • Jun 2011
        • 521
        • Hampton, VA.

        #4
        thanks

        Originally posted by BA80
        As long as the vacuum is ported, that is no vacuum at idle, it shouldn't matter which carb you use.
        thats what i thought.
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        • natemoen
          Master of XSology
          • May 2010
          • 8640
          • Fargo

          #5
          I honestly think it is just put on an inside carb for protection of the nipple so that it does not get hit and snapped off.
          Nathan
          KD9ARL

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          • Nightengale
            XSive Maximus
            • Jun 2011
            • 521
            • Hampton, VA.

            #6
            Originally posted by natemoen
            I honestly think it is just put on an inside carb for protection of the nipple so that it does not get hit and snapped off.
            that does make sense
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            • TopCatGr58
              Administrator
              • Jul 2002
              • 12650
              • Portsmouth, Va.

              #7
              Hey Folks,

              He said he has FJ carbs, not XJ carbs, I just looked at the fiche and they don't show any vacuum ports on the carb bodies, just the fuel inlets, and the vent T's...surprised to see vent T's....Yamaha was able to eliminate those with the later style XS carbs, so wondering why they put it back on the FJ carbs?

              But, we've talked about the vacuum advance vacuum source before, and you can't put it on the INTAKE BOOT port, the #2 XS/XJ carbs have the proper metered and controlled vac. port for the vac. adv.!

              There has also been discussion of folks drilling a NON-XS/XJ carb to put a vac port on the carb body behind the butterfly valve.

              T.C.
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              • natemoen
                Master of XSology
                • May 2010
                • 8640
                • Fargo

                #8
                Yeah, he is looking at drilling the FJ carbs for the vac advance.
                Nathan
                KD9ARL

                μολὼν λαβέ

                1978 XS1100E
                K&N Filter
                #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
                OEM Exhaust
                ATK Fork Brace
                LED Dash lights
                Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

                Green Monster Coils
                SS Brake Lines
                Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

                In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

                Theodore Roosevelt

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                • WMarshy
                  XS-XJ Guru
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 2402
                  • Mexico NY

                  #9
                  Originally posted by TopCatGr58
                  Hey Folks,

                  He said he has FJ carbs, not XJ carbs, I just looked at the fiche and they don't show any vacuum ports on the carb bodies, just the fuel inlets, and the vent T's...surprised to see vent T's....Yamaha was able to eliminate those with the later style XS carbs, so wondering why they put it back on the FJ carbs?

                  But, we've talked about the vacuum advance vacuum source before, and you can't put it on the INTAKE BOOT port, the #2 XS/XJ carbs have the proper metered and controlled vac. port for the vac. adv.!

                  There has also been discussion of folks drilling a NON-XS/XJ carb to put a vac port on the carb body behind the butterfly valve.

                  T.C.
                  I think the folks you talk about are the ones who use the ZXR carbs. Do a search and you will probably find some tips on where to drill the hole and how big it needs to be.

                  Im interested in hearing how well the FJ carbs work. Keep us posted and if you can, write a how-to. Im going Friday to pick up a FJ parts bike and have been wondering if the carbs/exhaust can be used on the XS.
                  '79 XS11 F
                  Stock except K&N

                  '79 XS11 SF
                  Stock, no title.

                  '84 Chevy K-10 "Big Blue"
                  GM 350, Muncie SM465, NP208, GM 10 Bolt with 3.42gears turnin 31x10.5 Baja Claws

                  "What they do have is an implacable, unrelenting presence and movement that bespeaks massive power lurking behind paint and chrome. They don't wail like a screeching ninja, the don't rumble like a harley. They just growl like a spactic, stressed out badger waiting to rip your face off and eat your soul." Trainzz~RIP~

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                  • Nightengale
                    XSive Maximus
                    • Jun 2011
                    • 521
                    • Hampton, VA.

                    #10
                    read it

                    Originally posted by WMarshy
                    I think the folks you talk about are the ones who use the ZXR carbs. Do a search and you will probably find some tips on where to drill the hole and how big it needs to be.

                    Im interested in hearing how well the FJ carbs work. Keep us posted and if you can, write a how-to. Im going Friday to pick up a FJ parts bike and have been wondering if the carbs/exhaust can be used on the XS.
                    i read that forum and know where to drill the hole, i just wanted to know if it mattered which carb to do it on. and from what i have read on here they have been used before on these bikes, and have had good reviews. So far all i can say is that there was no problem fitting them to the bike, and the guy that i got the carbs from set them up to use a single cable instead of the push/pull cables that the fj uses.

                    also TC i was looking at the vent T's what are those for exactlly.
                    Last edited by Nightengale; 04-18-2012, 07:49 PM.
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                    • GARTHXS
                      XS-XJ Guru
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 1631
                      • Seattle

                      #11
                      id like too see what you come up with , because I havent the heart to drill into mine yet .
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                      • WMarshy
                        XS-XJ Guru
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 2402
                        • Mexico NY

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Nightengale
                        i read that forum and know where to drill the hole, i just wanted to know if it mattered which carb to do it on. and from what i have read on here they have been used before on these bikes, and have had good reviews. So far all i can say is that there was no problem fitting them to the bike, and the guy that i got the carbs from set them up to use a single cable instead of the push/pull cables that the fj uses.

                        also TC i was looking at the vent T's what are those for exactlly.
                        Let us know how what he use to convert it over to pull cable.
                        '79 XS11 F
                        Stock except K&N

                        '79 XS11 SF
                        Stock, no title.

                        '84 Chevy K-10 "Big Blue"
                        GM 350, Muncie SM465, NP208, GM 10 Bolt with 3.42gears turnin 31x10.5 Baja Claws

                        "What they do have is an implacable, unrelenting presence and movement that bespeaks massive power lurking behind paint and chrome. They don't wail like a screeching ninja, the don't rumble like a harley. They just growl like a spactic, stressed out badger waiting to rip your face off and eat your soul." Trainzz~RIP~

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                        • BA80
                          Doctor of XSology
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 9980
                          • Tulsa, Ok

                          #13
                          I think if you try to drill them all you'll end up with is a FUBAR set of carbs.

                          You know those POs we laugh at and hate at times? Don't become one.
                          Greg

                          Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                          ― Albert Einstein

                          80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                          The list changes.

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                          • WMarshy
                            XS-XJ Guru
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 2402
                            • Mexico NY

                            #14
                            Originally posted by BA80
                            I think if you try to drill them all you'll end up with is a FUBAR set of carbs.

                            You know those POs we laugh at and hate at times? Don't become one.
                            LoL

                            There's no reason to believe that... the ZRX carbs worked fine with a hole drilled into them for vac advance...
                            '79 XS11 F
                            Stock except K&N

                            '79 XS11 SF
                            Stock, no title.

                            '84 Chevy K-10 "Big Blue"
                            GM 350, Muncie SM465, NP208, GM 10 Bolt with 3.42gears turnin 31x10.5 Baja Claws

                            "What they do have is an implacable, unrelenting presence and movement that bespeaks massive power lurking behind paint and chrome. They don't wail like a screeching ninja, the don't rumble like a harley. They just growl like a spactic, stressed out badger waiting to rip your face off and eat your soul." Trainzz~RIP~

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                            • Nightengale
                              XSive Maximus
                              • Jun 2011
                              • 521
                              • Hampton, VA.

                              #15
                              not me

                              Originally posted by BA80
                              I think if you try to drill them all you'll end up with is a FUBAR set of carbs.

                              You know those POs we laugh at and hate at times? Don't become one.
                              I am not going to do it myself, the guy i got the carbs from is going to do it for me, he has a full machine shop and builds drag bikes for a living. yeah the last thing i need is to mess up my new carbs. so i will leave it to the pros. and i will ask him what he had to do to set the carbs for the single cable. I have to call him tomorow and will ask him then. on thing about my carbs is that they were originally set up to be used on a legands race car, and as far as i know all he did was to put in a heavier spring in it for the single cable to work, but i will check.
                              Last edited by Nightengale; 04-18-2012, 09:16 PM.
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