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    Does anyone else run a modulator on their high-beam? If so, does your white override dash light modulate with it at times??
    "Pop.pa Pipes"
    Tends to overthink even the smallest little glitches

    1978 XS1100
    '79 Special Tank
    210 air pilots, 137.5 Mains
    4 into 2 Jardines
    1st over, standard bore
    1978 Intake cam
    Later style exhaust cam

  • #2
    I would expect it would... that light is the indicator for a burned-out lamp and the reserve lighting unit that operates it 'checks' by measuring the lamp load; change the load, and the RLU will think the light is malfunctioning.
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    '78E original owner - resto project
    '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
    '82 XJ rebuild project
    '80SG restified, red SOLD
    '79F parts...
    '81H more parts...

    Other current bikes:
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    '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
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    • #3
      modulator

      Yes, I knew that the unit checked the current flow to the low-beam....was kinda surprised that it worked in reverse........ie The modulator only works in the daylight on high-beam. But then again, the idiot light is there to tell u that your headlight is burnt out so it must read all of the volts going thru regardless of which beam u have on......k, think I got it now
      "Pop.pa Pipes"
      Tends to overthink even the smallest little glitches

      1978 XS1100
      '79 Special Tank
      210 air pilots, 137.5 Mains
      4 into 2 Jardines
      1st over, standard bore
      1978 Intake cam
      Later style exhaust cam

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      • #4
        The RLU checks both lamp filaments; it's designed to switch on the other half of the light if either fail, not just the low beam. If the low beam fails, it switches to high but reduces voltage to the lamp so you don't blind oncoming traffic. If the high fails, it just switches to low.

        So that makes me wonder... does the light actually 'modulate', or are you really seeing an interaction between the modulator and the RLU? If the high beam 'fails', the RLU switches to low beam and lights that indicator lamp.

        This might 'wear out' the RLU over the long haul, but I can't say for sure...
        Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

        '78E original owner - resto project
        '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
        '82 XJ rebuild project
        '80SG restified, red SOLD
        '79F parts...
        '81H more parts...

        Other current bikes:
        '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
        '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
        '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
        Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
        Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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        • #5
          Originally posted by crazy steve View Post
          If the high fails, it just switches to low.
          Not true... The RLU only senses the low beam, and will turn on the high beam at a decreased wattage while turning on the idiot light. If you switch to the high beam with a dead high beam filament, the RLU does nothing, and the idiot light does not come on.

          I personally have seen, and heard a few others mention that the idiot light actually stays on very dimly lit even when the low beam is still good. Only noticable on a dark road at night, but it's there.
          1980 XS850SG - Sold
          1981 XS1100LH Midnight Special (Sold) - purchased 9/29/08
          Fully Vetterized and Dynojet Kit added, Heated Grips, Truck-Lite LED headlight, Accel Coils, Irridium plugs, TKAT Fork Brace, XS850LH Final Drive & Black SS Brake lines from Chacal.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by CatatonicBug View Post
            Not true... The RLU only senses the low beam, and will turn on the high beam at a decreased wattage while turning on the idiot light. If you switch to the high beam with a dead high beam filament, the RLU does nothing, and the idiot light does not come on..
            Sorry 'Bug, it is true. It does check both (look at your FSM), so if yours is doing that, it's only half working....
            Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

            '78E original owner - resto project
            '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
            '82 XJ rebuild project
            '80SG restified, red SOLD
            '79F parts...
            '81H more parts...

            Other current bikes:
            '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
            '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
            '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
            Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
            Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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            • #7
              Well, I tested it before I upgraded to the HID light, to test this very idea and it worked as I described. I had a dead low filament, and if I hooked it up to "trick" the system into thinking it was the high beam filament, the idiot light did not turn on. It simply did not turn the dead filament. However, if connected "correctly", the high beam came on at a reduced wattage and the idiot light came on.
              1980 XS850SG - Sold
              1981 XS1100LH Midnight Special (Sold) - purchased 9/29/08
              Fully Vetterized and Dynojet Kit added, Heated Grips, Truck-Lite LED headlight, Accel Coils, Irridium plugs, TKAT Fork Brace, XS850LH Final Drive & Black SS Brake lines from Chacal.
              Here's my web page devoted to my bike! XS/XJ User's Manuals there, and the XJ1100 Service Manual and both XS1100 Service manuals (free download!).

              Whether you think you can, or you think you cannot - You're right.
              -H. Ford

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              • #8
                Jeff, I have installed one of those modulators on my bike, but I removed the RLU before I installed it (when I installed an HID lamp, since removed as I found it really did blind oncoming traffic.). Easy solution if it bothers you, remove the RLU.
                Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

                When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.

                81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
                80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


                Previously owned
                93 GSX600F
                80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
                81 XS1100 Special
                81 CB750 C
                80 CB750 C
                78 XS750

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                • #9
                  modulator

                  It doesn't really bother me. I had read a post the other day about someone who had found out that his high and low beams had the wires transposed, and since my light was coming on when I had it on high beam, I thought that maybe that was happening to me......Just thought I would post the question before I had to go to the hassle of trying to put my headlight back together with all the other modulator stuff crammed in there.....but it looks like I should do it anyway.....just to make sure.......ahhhhhh....life with an xs....
                  "Pop.pa Pipes"
                  Tends to overthink even the smallest little glitches

                  1978 XS1100
                  '79 Special Tank
                  210 air pilots, 137.5 Mains
                  4 into 2 Jardines
                  1st over, standard bore
                  1978 Intake cam
                  Later style exhaust cam

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                  • #10
                    modulator

                    BTW I am running an off road bulb.
                    "Pop.pa Pipes"
                    Tends to overthink even the smallest little glitches

                    1978 XS1100
                    '79 Special Tank
                    210 air pilots, 137.5 Mains
                    4 into 2 Jardines
                    1st over, standard bore
                    1978 Intake cam
                    Later style exhaust cam

                    Comment

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