Fuel Injection

[Shuriken]

Just curious about everyone's plans.

[Lord Grizzlon]

personally, i cant stand fi. it usually makes my life difficult. i wish it would go away and bring back full blooded carbs..bikes and cars alike.

[TonimusMaximus]

It's still cheaper to rebuild or repair carbs than it is to buy new injectors. One of the many trade offs. I'd have to ride an XS with it before I converted. Oh yeah! Money is good to have also.

[turbox79]

I was tossing around the idea but never did it fi and turbo that would be fun

[Shuriken]

I can't stand FI either, on the autos I've worked on at least. But I think it's just because I don't understand it like I do carbs. FI means computers and sensors. Perhaps if I knew exactly how the megasquirt system worked and built it myself it would be great. Still, I want to get details on MPG and performance and reliability first, of course.

Ben

[pgg]

I've got no problem with the FI idea, but I've never had any real problems occour with those CV carbs they've always performed faultlessly. I've read on this website about people having all sorts of problems with their carbs, but I reckon as long as the carbs are in good condition and they're set up properly to begin with, then they're brilliant.

On an xs11 I've only had experience with 78E carbs and they've always been super-reliable. Maybe the later model carbs are a bit more 'finicky', I don't know. In my case- ditto, if a FI set up had any glitches or bugs I'd be pretty much stuffed to know what to do about it. No good for me as I'd never, never, ever take my bike to a bikeshop- don't want some wet behind the ears mechanic shagging with the motor.

[oldnortonrider]

My brother bought a new Victory, with fuel injection, about a year ago. A couple months back, he was telling me, that he thought, that it was idling a bit faster than he would like for it to idle. He knew he couldn't adjust it. He told me he took it to the dealer, asked the dealer, how much of a problem to drop the idle down a tad. Dealer told him he couldn't adjust it; would have to pull the injection system, and send it to the factory .

? WHUUUUUUUUUUT!? ?

[Shuriken]

That's the deal. I think if I understood FI in and out, like we do with the CV carbs, FI would be fine. Shouldn't FI be even easier to tweak? Like just tweaking the source code and recompiling? If someone ironed out a kit for the XS that worked fine it could be a no brainer in some ways....

Ben

[Hobbit]

FI

I've worked on and taught (college level and private industry) FI since 1975. I rather work on an FI system then carbs, they're actually much less comlicated. I'm seriously looking at the Mega squirt system as a replacement for the carbs.

[oldnortonrider]

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[oldnortonrider]

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[TheDjost]

I think that the thread moves to the top every time someone votes, but that hobbit's name stays in the last post box because it is the last post.

-Justin

[Bikeboy]

FI,why not ???????

From what I understand there's less moving parts, you dont have to worry about those diaphrams wearing out, which oh by the way they dont make anymore, you can tune your engine to a T, because you use a computer to ajust the FI. So FI sounds like a great thing to me not a bad thing. Oh and did I mention that you get more miles to the gallon because your able to tune your engine to exact specs. Know more fouling plugs, Iam sure theres more to add someone else chime in. Oh ya what about blueing your new chrome headers, because your carbs are to rich or to lean.

[mainlylinux]

If I didn't have the ability to tune/modify the FI program, then I might choose carbs.

But after seeing how quick my bike started up when cold, and how easy it was to make tuning changes, I'd choose FI that I can control any day.

JMHO,

dan

[Jeff]

From the looks of it.... I guess it all boils down to whether one wants to be a TECH or a WRENCH when it comes to adjustments or tuning. To me... the up side to FI is being able to make adjustments without pulling and tearing down the carbs each time you want to change something to see if it will improve performance. But as with many things... convenience does come with a healthy price tag.