I bought this 1981 xs1100 Midnight special from a family member, unfortunately the poor bike has been sitting for approx 17 years. Just finally started getting into it today and hopefully tomorrow it will be turning over for the first time in a long time. Other than changing oil, plugs and new battery, draining carb bowls and running some good fuel and seafoam through it, any other tips or ideas for a novice mechanic?
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Originally posted by Duaner View PostI bought this 1981 xs1100 Midnight special from a family member, unfortunately the poor bike has been sitting for approx 17 years. Just finally started getting into it today and hopefully tomorrow it will be turning over for the first time in a long time. Other than changing oil, plugs and new battery, draining carb bowls and running some good fuel and seafoam through it, any other tips or ideas for a novice mechanic?Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two
'78E original owner - resto project
'78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
'82 XJ rebuild project
'80SG restified, red SOLD
'79F parts...
'81H more parts...
Other current bikes:
'93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
'86 XL883/1200 Chopper
'82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...
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clutch
Mine set for 10 years and ran ok at first when I rebuilt it but then clutch problems. Seems that all the time sitting the plates developed rust and semi adhered to the frictions. At first clutch seemed fine then developed shutter and slip. While you ae doing things this may be a simple cleanup to avoid problems. Mine I caught before anything more than cleaning will be needed there are several good writeups for removal and inspection it is not very hard to do.To fix the problem one should not make more assumptions than the minimum needed.
Rodan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khm6...liHntN91DHjHiS
1980 G Silverbird
Original Yamaha Fairfing and Bags
1198 Overbore kit
Grizzly 660 ACCT
Barnett Clutch Springs
R1 Clutch Fiber Plates
122.5 Main Jets
ACCT Mod
Mac 4-2 Flare Tips
Antivibe Bar ends
Rear trunk add-on
http://s1184.photobucket.com/albums/z329/viperron1/
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My XJ sat for 14 years and in that time water had rusted pinholes in the tank and eaten away a petcock sealing surface, brakes were all grunged up and sticking, and it threw a valve being run without cleaning the oil delivery system. You need to be prepared for a lot of "love labor", wanting to do this for the total experience, as well as the ride."Galaxy" 1982 XJ1100J, 1983 XV handlebars, new fusebox, homemade SS wind screen and SS muffler heat shields, homemade grab bar extension and luggage rack. XS750 140 mph speedo, '81 Venture oil cooler, V-Max ACCT, Yahman YICS Eliminator, 1st and 2nd gear Dremel fix.
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17 yrs sitting.Getting antsy here
There is a famous story about Yagyu Matajuro, who was a son of the famous Yagyu family of swordsmen in 17th century feudal Japan. He was kicked out of the house for lack of talent and potential, and sought out instruction of the swordmaster Tsukahara Bokuden, with the hope of achieving mastery of the sword and regaining his family position. On their initial interview, Matajuro asked Tsukahara Bokuden, "How long will it take me to master the sword?" Bokuden replied, "Oh, about five years if you train very hard." "If I train twice as hard, how long will it take?" inquired Matajuro. "In that case, ten years", retorted Bokuden.
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Go slow79SF
XJ11
78E
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definately going to be a slow process, just want to try to fire it up and get a good assessment of the damage. Definately not close to riding this one anytime soon. Want to see where its at so I know where to start disassembling. Thanks for some info all
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mine sat for 7 years in a wood framed non insulated shed in rainy Vancouver, WA. course I put staybil in the gas before it was parked in that shed. When I pulled it out I drained and cleaned the tanks. fresh fuel with seafoam. fresh oil with seafoam. put in new plugs. Ran it in the garage @ various rpm's several times for a few days. probably burnt up 3 gallons of gas. Changed the oil again and plugs. all worked out well... of course your experience may differ. I got lucky!Don
1979 XS1100SF "Old Man" bought by my Dad brand new in 79, customized in 80 with Vetter, Standard tank, and touring seat. I inherited in 02 when Dad passed. Been riding it since 09. No resto, bike is a survivor...
2007 RoadStar 1700 Midnight Silverado "The Black Pearl" Cobra Slash-downs, K&N filter. More mods to come
old:
1989 kawi ex500
1996 yzf-r6
1999 yzf-r1
2001 kawi zx-6r
2000 Ducati 748
2002 YZF-R1
2005 V-Star 1100 Classic
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oh and I also Sprayed Aerosol Seafoam down the plug holes and rolled it over by hand several times. then with the starter before putting plugs in and lighting fire to it.Don
1979 XS1100SF "Old Man" bought by my Dad brand new in 79, customized in 80 with Vetter, Standard tank, and touring seat. I inherited in 02 when Dad passed. Been riding it since 09. No resto, bike is a survivor...
2007 RoadStar 1700 Midnight Silverado "The Black Pearl" Cobra Slash-downs, K&N filter. More mods to come
old:
1989 kawi ex500
1996 yzf-r6
1999 yzf-r1
2001 kawi zx-6r
2000 Ducati 748
2002 YZF-R1
2005 V-Star 1100 Classic
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hi Duaner
remove the air box and see if the carb slides move freely,
if they do,
remove the plugs and put a little oil in each of the cylinders,
crank the engine over til the oil light goes out,
stick some fuel in the tank and if theres no leaks,
put the plugs back in and try firing her up,
if she starts run it at a fast idle for 5 - 10 minutes.
good luck.pete
new owner of
08 gen2 hayabusa
former owner
1981 xs1100 RH (aus) (5N5)
zrx carbs
18mm float height
145 main jets
38 pilots
slide needle shimmed .5mm washer
fitted with v/stax and uni pod filters
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pA8dwxmAVA&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL[/url]
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My bike sat for 15 years and when they got it running the clutch was seized in it. At least that the story from the guy I bought it from but it sounds reasonable. Watch the tires too, check the date code, tires that aren't cracked at all can crack rapidly once you start running it. If over 5 years old they should probably be replaced.1970? Honda Z50... gone
1974? Yamaha 100 Enduro... gone
1974 Honda CB200... gone
1981 Yamaha Virago 750... gone
1993 Honda Shadow 1100... gone
2008 Honda VTX 1800F
1982 Yamaha XJ1100J w/850 final, Raptor ACCT
1979 Yamaha XS1100SF "Chewey" Raptor ACCT
http://www.johnsoldiron.com
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Life is what happens while your planning everything else!
When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.
81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection
Previously owned
93 GSX600F
80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
81 XS1100 Special
81 CB750 C
80 CB750 C
78 XS750
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Originally posted by Duaner View PostI bought this 1981 xs1100 Midnight special from a family member, unfortunately the poor bike has been sitting for approx 17 years. Just finally started getting into it today and hopefully tomorrow it will be turning over for the first time in a long time. Other than changing oil, plugs and new battery, draining carb bowls and running some good fuel and seafoam through it, any other tips or ideas for a novice mechanic?
what they all said. Especially the tires, would you use a 17 year old condom?
Your profile sez "first bike".
Fer chrissake take a riders course before you take that bike on the road, it'll greatly reduce the chance of you ending up as a smear of forensic evidence.Fred Hill, S'toon
XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
"The Flying Pumpkin"
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Originally posted by fredintoon View PostHi Duaner,
what they all said. Especially the tires, would you use a 17 year old condom?
Your profile sez "first bike".
Fer chrissake take a riders course before you take that bike on the road, it'll greatly reduce the chance of you ending up as a smear of forensic evidence.
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Originally posted by Duaner View Post....Wanted to keep it original as possible since its a midnight special, doubt that now.. hahaFast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two
'78E original owner - resto project
'78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
'82 XJ rebuild project
'80SG restified, red SOLD
'79F parts...
'81H more parts...
Other current bikes:
'93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
'86 XL883/1200 Chopper
'82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...
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I had one that sat for 10 years. It was going to be borken for spares anyway (rough), so I thought I'd at least try to start the engine up without any expense whatsoever. I put fuel in and used a car battery to turn the engine. I sprayed Easy Start (ether) into the airbox and it fired up.... badly..... then, horrifyingly, the airbox caught fire! I really thought I'd have a serious problem on my hands but managed to put the fire by smothering it with a blanket. The cause? An inlet valve had rusted in the open position and was stuck solid. The spark plug had sparked, fired up the Easy Start and blown back through the carb, igniting the fuel in it. I was surprised at how quickly the fire spread. Fortunately, I'd just hung out some washing to dry (it's what we do here) and grabbed a convenient damp blanket.
I would check that all valves open and close properly and that you have reasonable compression on all cylinders! Like I should have done......XS1100F 1980 European model. Standard. Dyna coils. Iridium plugs. XS750 final drive (sometimes). Micron fork brace. Progressive front springs. Geezer regulator/rectifier. Stainless 4 into 2 exhaust. Auto CCT (Venturer 1300) SOLD. New project now on the go. 1980 European model.
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