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  • Update on Raptor CCT since install

    So I've put 120 miles on the old dog since the install... all going good. Engine is a bit more noisy with the auto cct (and valve adjustment) but not to the point of making you want to investigate. My Fairing amplifies it a bit going down the freeway sustaining 4500-5000 rpm but I'm sure it will just become another noise I will forget about soon.
    or drown out with the radio
    The first time I rode it I kept hearing a jingle rattle sound @ a certain rpm... tund out it was my keys rattling on my handle bars as I was lugging thru the gears....

    for $9 and 20 minutes of my time it was a mod worth wild
    Don
    1979 XS1100SF "Old Man" bought by my Dad brand new in 79, customized in 80 with Vetter, Standard tank, and touring seat. I inherited in 02 when Dad passed. Been riding it since 09. No resto, bike is a survivor...

    2007 RoadStar 1700 Midnight Silverado "The Black Pearl" Cobra Slash-downs, K&N filter. More mods to come


    old:
    1989 kawi ex500
    1996 yzf-r6
    1999 yzf-r1
    2001 kawi zx-6r
    2000 Ducati 748
    2002 YZF-R1
    2005 V-Star 1100 Classic

  • #2
    a friend told me that with the auto CCT or whatever starts to go out/goes out on these the motor can tick like crazy and you cant do anything about it but replace it again. unlike the manual ones were you can just adjust it to stop the ticking.. ( if any of this makes sense) is any of this true.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Jfries View Post
      a friend told me that with the auto CCT or whatever starts to go out/goes out on these the motor can tick like crazy and you cant do anything about it but replace it again. unlike the manual ones were you can just adjust it to stop the ticking.. ( if any of this makes sense) is any of this true.
      Only the stock adjuster IS an issue and regularly backs off under a heavily loaded decel, which loads the pressure on the front side of chain..........then the tick can occur with the timing chain hitting case, and if not re-adjusted can cost you a top-end and worse. The auto adjusters don't have the dense fiber material on the front of plunger, so a bit of that chain noise itself transfers through it off the chain guide. Mine being a factory full dresser, I've never noticed the noise, but some have. BTW, for future reference, better to listen what is said here ranther than what a friend might say..........just sayin......
      81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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      • #4
        I think the slight tick is the end of the plunger in metal to metal contact with the tensioner blade. OEM has the rubber block at the end of it. I don't think it's anything to worry about at all. There's plenty of oil in there and, like you say, a fairing will amplify any noise and make it sound much worse. I only ever noticed my ticking when the bike was running in the workshop, near a wall. Outside, it was unnoticeable.

        I'd prefer a regular tick than a one-off BANG as the chain jumps off under deceleration.

        I think so many people now have the auto CCT that we would have heard of failures by now, if they were a risky mod. I did about 3,000 miles on mine with no problems at all.
        XS1100F 1980 European model. Standard. Dyna coils. Iridium plugs. XS750 final drive (sometimes). Micron fork brace. Progressive front springs. Geezer regulator/rectifier. Stainless 4 into 2 exhaust. Auto CCT (Venturer 1300) SOLD. New project now on the go. 1980 European model.

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        • #5
          Depending how many miles you have on the bike, the noise could be the cam chain getting loose due to it being stretched beyond the adjusters reach.

          That may be what your friend was describing Jfries. You do not go in and adjust the auto adjuster, so when it reaches its end, your done. If the chain is stretched beyond that, time for a new chain. Although, realistically, it was probably time for that long before you ran out of reach on one of the auto tensioners.
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          81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
          80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


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          93 GSX600F
          80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
          81 XS1100 Special
          81 CB750 C
          80 CB750 C
          78 XS750

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          • #6
            Mine doesnt make a ticking sound, ok will it does but thats in the top end because i set the valves loose so when the oil thins out she ticks a little. The auto cct give the motor a little more growl. its just the harmonics of chain on guide bar, guide bar transfering harmonics to cct, cct absorbing it into its tooled steel plunger. I took my exhaust stethoscope out, ran the motor up to 4000 rpm and set the throttle lock and went hunting. The noise was coming from the gerenal area of the cct according to my findings with the stethoscope. hence my theory of harmonics. Like previously stated there was a hard plastic type pad on the nose of the original cct to absorb more harmonics.

            I don't know about you fella's but I think my bike runs better with the auto cct... it seems to be more responsive and idle better. Course I could have just been sniffing too many fumes.
            Don
            1979 XS1100SF "Old Man" bought by my Dad brand new in 79, customized in 80 with Vetter, Standard tank, and touring seat. I inherited in 02 when Dad passed. Been riding it since 09. No resto, bike is a survivor...

            2007 RoadStar 1700 Midnight Silverado "The Black Pearl" Cobra Slash-downs, K&N filter. More mods to come


            old:
            1989 kawi ex500
            1996 yzf-r6
            1999 yzf-r1
            2001 kawi zx-6r
            2000 Ducati 748
            2002 YZF-R1
            2005 V-Star 1100 Classic

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            • #7
              I have close to 20K on my ACCT (79SF), it only ticks when the bike is stone cold for about 30 sec. and then it is gone. I'm using the Venture one though.
              2H7 (79) owned since '89
              3H3 owned since '06

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              • #8
                I put in a Venture cct three-four weeks ago. In the last two days alone I've put on 200-300 miles of around town cruising and noticed nothing. The Venture cct looks identicle.
                1990 Ninja ZX-10. It's the Silver Surfer. HI-YA!!

                2006 Yamaha XT-225. Yep, I take it on the interstate. It's Blue Butt.

                1982 Toyota 4x4. 22R Cammed, 38/38, 2" pipe, 20R head with OS valves, performance grind and other fun stuff. It's Blue RASPberry.

                1969 Ford F-250 Camper Special resto project. 390 RV cam, Demon carb, Sanderson headers, 2 and a quarter pipes with Magnaflow mufflers. It's Blue Jay.

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                • #9
                  The only real complaint I have with my CCT is that it leakes. I think it's leaking from the hold down bolt for the plunger , not the surface between the CCT plate and the cylinder. It's not severe but when a Jap bike leaks any oil it really gets on my nerves. What do you guys have to say about your experience with the stock unit?
                  Can't beat the smell of gas & oil

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Lonerider62 View Post
                    The only real complaint I have with my CCT is that it leakes. I think it's leaking from the hold down bolt for the plunger , not the surface between the CCT plate and the cylinder. It's not severe but when a Jap bike leaks any oil it really gets on my nerves. What do you guys have to say about your experience with the stock unit?
                    There is an o ring on that bolt you will need to replace if thats where is leaking from. My stock one leaked from the plug @ the end. So check there also as I've heard others with the same problem.
                    Don
                    1979 XS1100SF "Old Man" bought by my Dad brand new in 79, customized in 80 with Vetter, Standard tank, and touring seat. I inherited in 02 when Dad passed. Been riding it since 09. No resto, bike is a survivor...

                    2007 RoadStar 1700 Midnight Silverado "The Black Pearl" Cobra Slash-downs, K&N filter. More mods to come


                    old:
                    1989 kawi ex500
                    1996 yzf-r6
                    1999 yzf-r1
                    2001 kawi zx-6r
                    2000 Ducati 748
                    2002 YZF-R1
                    2005 V-Star 1100 Classic

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by ddragon63 View Post
                      There is an o ring on that bolt you will need to replace if thats where is leaking from. My stock one leaked from the plug @ the end. So check there also as I've heard others with the same problem.
                      +1, that little o-ring
                      Nathan
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