Tranny Questions

[gaillarry]

Doing the 2nd gear fix on my 80. Got the bike flipped over onto two tires and hoisted up. I put the tranny in 4th gear but now that the bike is flipped the gears are all free wheeling - is this normal? Here's a pic:

[bikerphil]

If the back wheel spins freely, then you are in between gears, if it stops you should be in 4th, then go ahead and remove the countershaft for gear repairs.

[gaillarry]

The back wheel spins freely, have to put the shifter back on and try again, thanks.

[bikerphil]

You should be able to rotate the shift drum end with just your hand, don't need to move it very far. Slightly rotate the rear wheel while moving the shift drum, you are probably in false neutral between 4th and 5th.

[gaillarry]

You should be able to rotate the shift drum end with just your hand, don't need to move it very far. Slightly rotate the rear wheel while moving the shift drum, you are probably in false neutral between 4th and 5th.

That will make it a lot easier ! Took me 3 hours to strip the bike and flip it over and hoist it up. Hopefully tomorrow I can finish the tranny work. Luckily I picked up a complete tranny from a bike yard. So I'll have spare parts in the event I screw up.

[jmcvey1]

ooohhhhhh..... THAT kind of tranny...

[gaillarry]

ooohhhhhh..... THAT kind of tranny...

And she's a 5 speed

[DGXSER]

OF course, once you pull the clutch basket off, nothing links the "engine" as in crank shaft, and primary shaft to the transmission. So the rear wheel will still spin and turn the transmission gears no matter what gear your in, but should give some resistance. And even in nuetral, there will be some of the gears in there spinning. If it helps, here is a picture of what the shift drum position looks like when it is in fourth, on an upright bike that is, rotate the pic 180 for your current arrangment.....

[gaillarry]

Thanks for the great pic, I'll have a look in the morning.

[gaillarry]

Got the drive axle shaft out ok, but looking at the gears on the main axle, is it necessary to remove them and the #2 shift fork - they look ok.

[bikerphil]

No need to take the main shaft out, you can't anyway without splitting the cases.

[gaillarry]

Thanks I didn't think so.

Another question. When I cleaned the sludge out of the oil pan found a washer and circlip in the center of the pan.



I suspect they are from the shift fork shaft here:



The parts diagram doesn't show a circlip and washer on that end of the shaft although they fit perfect ??

[motoman]

Both that little washer and the circlip came off that same shaft, but on the clutch side. I would replace that circlip with new if it's distorted any amount. The washer goes on shaft and rides against the oil pump idler gear and snap ring holds it all in place. Not to be alarmed as that finding is more common than you think.

[natemoen]

Both that little washer and the circlip came off that same shaft, but on the clutch side. I would replace that circlip with new if it's distorted any amount. The washer goes on shaft and rides against the oil pump idler gear and snap ring holds it all in place. Not to be alarmed as that finding is more common than you think.

Good to know, I have never heard anyone talk about that before!

[gaillarry]

Got lots of questions, here's another one. Read post about moving the spacer to provide better engagement. Is it part # 24 (washer plate) and moving it as shown in the pic?