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  • Trying to paint wheels, can't get rotors off...

    Hey all,

    unfortunately I don't have a picture handy of the problem, but there are little clips under the bolts that keep the rotors on the wheels which are standing between me and having freshly painted wheels.

    They looked pretty important so I didn't bang on them with a hammer (my go-to fix it move,) any idea's on how i could get these off, then back on, easily enough?

    thanks
    1979 XS1100 (non special and slightly dented)

  • #2
    The only way to remove them is to bend the clips out of the way, if they break they break, no way around it.
    Nathan
    KD9ARL

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    1978 XS1100E
    K&N Filter
    #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
    OEM Exhaust
    ATK Fork Brace
    LED Dash lights
    Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

    Green Monster Coils
    SS Brake Lines
    Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

    In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

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    • #3
      I just painted my front wheel, sans rotors. The 'clips' are just retainers to stop the bolts coming our by themselves. I just folded them down with a screwdriver and (smallish) hammer then simply unbolted them.
      1980 XS 1100 Special
      Mostly stock & original
      Added Yamaha fairing (w/ 8-track!)
      Torpedo bags
      New paint (still) pending
      Stainless brake lines
      Tkat forkbrace
      Coils from Honda 1000

      Previous bikes:
      1968(?) 350 Harley Davidson
      1977 Yamaha 650

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      • #4
        I don't even re-use use those clips, just lockwashers and lock tite. You can re-use them or get them new from MikesXS, P/N 29-6530....

        If your rotors are badly corroded to the hub, soak them with deep creep. Otherwise just rock them back and forth.

        http://www.mikesxs.net/products-66.html#products
        Last edited by bikerphil; 01-10-2012, 07:48 PM.
        2H7 (79) owned since '89
        3H3 owned since '06

        "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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        • #5
          Those "locks" are single use items. When you take them off, throw them away. It isn't safe to use them again. Yamaha has them. Part number 1J3-25834-01 Mike's XS has them as well. Either way, the set of three is about $5.
          Marty (in Mississippi)
          XS1100SG
          XS650SK
          XS650SH
          XS650G
          XS6502F
          XS650E

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          • #6
            Originally posted by jetmechmarty View Post
            Those "locks" are single use items. When you take them off, throw them away. It isn't safe to use them again. Yamaha has them. Part number 1J3-25834-01 Mike's XS has them as well. Either way, the set of three is about $5.
            Marty, do you re-use the main clutch nut lock plate ever?
            2H7 (79) owned since '89
            3H3 owned since '06

            "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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            • #7
              Phil,

              The clutch lock is the same part used on an XS650 and available at Mike's XS. The short answer is "no". That being said, I think these locks are OK to use again, provided they aren't bent in the same place again, or on the same tab in the case of the rotor lock.
              Marty (in Mississippi)
              XS1100SG
              XS650SK
              XS650SH
              XS650G
              XS6502F
              XS650E

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              • #8
                Yep. the rotor locks have two tabs for each bolt, you can use the other set second time around. The Mikes ones might be made of cheaper metal?
                2H7 (79) owned since '89
                3H3 owned since '06

                "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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                • #9
                  I actually found the OEM locks are less expensive than Mike's, depending where you buy them. The OEM locks have a black finish and the Mike's locks are cadmium or zinc plated. I haven't a clue which is better quality.
                  Marty (in Mississippi)
                  XS1100SG
                  XS650SK
                  XS650SH
                  XS650G
                  XS6502F
                  XS650E

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                  • #10
                    all good things to know!

                    then my plan is to bend them tomorrow and begin painting. I should have time to order new ones as I'm not looking to ride until the spring.

                    thanks again guys
                    1979 XS1100 (non special and slightly dented)

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by bikerphil View Post
                      Marty, do you re-use the main clutch nut lock plate ever?
                      Hey Phil,

                      That clutch lock washer is so much more beefier than a regular washer, I've used it and reused it when I've gone into my clutch a couple of times. I just use a large screwdriver and hammer to gently bend it down flat, loosen the nut, etc., and then a pair of channel locks to bend it back up to relock it around the newly torqued clutch nut! I do try to find a different portion to bend up. That nut is torqued to like 50+ ft/lbs, so I figured it would take quite a bit for it to get worked loose, so the lock washer seemed like just insurance!

                      T.C.
                      T. C. Gresham
                      81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
                      79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
                      History shows again and again,
                      How nature points out the folly of men!

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                      • #12
                        Hey TC, I've re-used that clutch nut locker so many times with no problems, so much that one side is even broken off . No problems yet <knock>.
                        2H7 (79) owned since '89
                        3H3 owned since '06

                        "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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                        • #13
                          No problems yet <knock>.
                          That's right! You'd better knock!

                          I think you can figure out why I don't reuse anything like that. I don't reuse cotter pins either.
                          Marty (in Mississippi)
                          XS1100SG
                          XS650SK
                          XS650SH
                          XS650G
                          XS6502F
                          XS650E

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by jetmechmarty View Post
                            That's right! You'd better knock!

                            I think you can figure out why I don't reuse anything like that. I don't reuse cotter pins either.
                            Lol, jet turbine flies off, yer in big trouble then.
                            2H7 (79) owned since '89
                            3H3 owned since '06

                            "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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                            • #15
                              Many moons ago I worked for GE Aircraft Engines in Evendale Ohio as a Design Engineer. (Yeah, it is rocket science, and still I could do it. Two cool things about jet engines, they are just a controlled rockets and two they suck and blow. )

                              The really interesting thing about it was that I worked side by side with the guys designing L&M engines, Land and Marine that is. The same thing we designed for a Jet engine had to be so light, and yet insanely sturdy and reliable, but on an L&M engine, weight meant nothing and reliability was not looked at as life or death.
                              Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

                              When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.

                              81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
                              80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


                              Previously owned
                              93 GSX600F
                              80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
                              81 XS1100 Special
                              81 CB750 C
                              80 CB750 C
                              78 XS750

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