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  • at speed ~~ weave wobble ("Pan weave")

    Folks on here might be interested to read the bottom of this Wikipedia link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_ST1300
    re what is being said about "weeble"; calling it "pan weave". My regular daily ride machine that I've had for 18 years started exhibiting this about 2-3 months back, at speeds above 60-70 mph, for the FIRST time. AND, furthermore; I've never had a motorcycle to do this with me, before, throughout 58 years of aggressive and steady and dedicated riding. I've had 'em "headshake", and I've experienced "speed wobble"; but not this "weaving wobble" = "weeble". What particularly got my attention in the ST article, re the part addressing the wobble weaving~~was mention of the rider following the rider piloting the machine known to have the "weave" problem~~observing the rear wheel having an alarming back and forth sideways movement, when at speed the weave starts up.
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    Originally posted by oldnortonrider View Post
    Folks on here might be interested to read the bottom of this Wikipedia link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_ST1300
    re what is being said about "weeble"; calling it "pan weave". My regular daily ride machine that I've had for 18 years started exhibiting this about 2-3 months back, at speeds above 60-70 mph, for the FIRST time. AND, furthermore; I've never had a motorcycle to do this with me, before, throughout 58 years of aggressive and steady and dedicated riding. I've had 'em "headshake", and I've experienced "speed wobble"; but not this "weaving wobble" = "weeble". What particularly got my attention in the ST article, re the part addressing the wobble weaving~~was mention of the rider following the rider piloting the machine known to have the "weave" problem~~observing the rear wheel having an alarming back and forth sideways movement, when at speed the weave starts up.
    As an ST-Owner this isnt anything new. AFAIK it hasnt been determined as to what the cause is...speculation that on the police models the raised lamp post on the rear of the bike causes instability. I have ridden close to 50000 miles on two different ST1100s' and this weave is non-existant on these bikes. Only have ridden an ST13 once and didnt go near the speeds where a weave would occur.
    1980 XS650G Special-Two
    1993 Honda ST1100

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      +1 what Madmax stated. Lot of variables and speculation involved that were not talked about cept on the forum as possibilities to the ACTUAL cause. Again, too many variables that CANNOT be attributed to the bikes design as the actual cause. With the large tail-trunk, my ST can and will start the "weave", but at a buck and a quarter plus GPS speed, which WILL get U more than an award anyway.....in any state.....
      81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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