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  • Rim lock fishing??

    I can definitely confirm the comment that rim locks are a real PITA when taking the rear tire off, but am afraid to comment about putting it back on. Does anyone have a secret method of gettin these dam things back in place? Do you put the tire half on and then pry, cuss, gouge (your finger) like I've been doing or put the locks in, then put the tire the rest of the way on, then fish the locks into the holes? Wrestling this tire on and off with tire irons ain't something I want to make a career out of.

    I've tried the half on method and it's got me shattered to the point of taking it to a dealer for tire mounting. This giving up easily, cause I'm a stubborn sob and every time I get new tires from a dealer they screw something up. When I took off this rear there was an extra bead lock nut inside. Last time he put the tire on backwards, and another guy pinched a front tube that let go at 70mph in the left lane......

    Any help would sorely be appreciated.....

    Thanks
    Bob

  • #2
    Hey Buggrin! If you got any dirtbike buddies they should be quite familiar with those things. Or you could get on ebay and go tubeless!!!
    Garry
    '79 SF "Battle Cat"
    outbackweld@charter.net

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    • #3
      Problem solved

      As I sat stewing over being so inept as to not be able to change a tire a long retired brain cell randomly fired and the memory of an old buddy who now runs a Harley shop popped up. My skinned and gouged knuckles were still sufficiently functional to use the phone and now the front and rear wheels are sitting in his shop along with the new 491s and tubes. I have in the past changed the front but by now was so tired of them dam tire irons that whatever it costs is worth it to have someone else do the whole deal.

      Yes, lots of discussion of tube/tubless rims, etc in this site was interesting and did make tubeless an option, but I've not used ebay and after rebuilding all the brake stuff and lines am about wrenched out for this winter...........
      Bob

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      • #4
        Rim locks

        I had a rear tire give up at 100 mph..many years ago...talk about exciting try riding at that speed with a rim lock on a busted flat tire...that bike turned into a sliding, bucking, swervin thing...I mean it didn't go flat slowly it went BOOM whilst I was middle of a corner...dang near killed me...as it was I hit the shoulder of the road at about 60 and went into a damn near perfect flying W over the bars....thank god for young bones and soft ground...meanwhile the bike destroyed itself doing cart wheels...but the tube didn't spin on the rim or tear the stem off so it did its job...to bad it caused the destruction of the bike and threw me off...I would have rather replaced a torn inner tube!!!!!
        Terry O'Donnell
        81SH "BullDozer"
        Holy Riders Motorcycle Ministries
        [URL]www.holyriders.com[/URL]
        [URL]www.groups.yahoo.com/group/HRMC/[/URL]

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        • #5
          I don`t have any luck with rimlocks either.When I replaced front and rear tires on my bike,the shop removed the rimlock from the back wheel{the rimlock was bad,rubber worn away}and installed a new liner,inner tube and new tire.The liner seals the hole where the rimlock went.Have not had any problems with this setup.Just check your tire pressure along with the tires while doing preride check.In 78 the tires and tubes in that time couldn`t handle the horsepower the bike put out,times have changed so rimlocks are not really needed.On a dirtbike they still are because of the lower tire pressure run{10-17 psi}. Hope this helps
          Bill Harvell

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          • #6
            Some guys on this list simply buy three vavle stems and put them in the stem and rim lock holes (same size), and just put on a tubeless tire. I know the rim-beads are different (tube and tubeless) and I would never do this. BUT I have seen it done and with good results.
            Gary Granger
            Remember, we are the caretakers of mechanical art.
            2013 Suzuki DR650SE, 2009 Kawasaki Concours 1400, 2003 Aprilia RSV Mille Tuono

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            • #7
              flats are damscary

              After my last flat at speed I can't bring myself to take the bead locks out. That time was almost enough to make me give up riding -- 40 years. I've looked at death and got over it, but that time it had me by the throat.
              Bob

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              • #8
                Having flats at any speed is very bad.Have had them on both ends{not at the same time}but a flat on the front is far worse.Happened to me some time ago and had to ride the bike that way for around 8 miles on a curvey road.Didn`t know if me and the bike would get there in one peace or not.That was on the front wheel.Make sure the rimlock is in good shape before useing{should have a rubber covering on the part in the wheel if not replace it}or you will have a flat from the bare metal rubbing the tube. Ride Safe
                Bill Harvell

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