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    hi guys, I was just out in the garage and started the bike up. I rode it yesturday and never have had a problem starting it. I am wondering tho, when I reved it the headlight got brighter and when I went down to an idle in got dimmer verooomm bright purrrr dim. normal?
    Bike History:1980 XS 1100 special current bike
    1980 XS 850 special wife sold

  • #2
    If idling too low will cause this, but I'd start looking into the Alt output
    81 XS1100H

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    • #3
      You don't get full voltage till around 3000 rpm. So yes that is normal but it doesn't hurt to check battery voltage at different rpms.
      Nathan
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      • #4
        If headlight output DOESN'T change from idle to higher RPM's then you need to check things cause as Nate says, you don't get full charge voltage till about 2500 RPM at a minimum with the stock charging system, and on some it's almost 3000 RPM before full voltage is achieved. I've never seen it on my 1100, but my 400 when held at the higher level will flicker the brightness a little bit if the battery is at full charge at 3000 RPM or higher.
        Cy

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        • #5
          For our bikes and many of the older models that's perfectly normal. In recent years, from what I've seen on my last three bikes at least, the idle output is plenty high enough that you wouldn't see much variarion in aternator ouput from an idle of around 1200 to 3000 RPM. As with almost anything else, charging systems have been improved quite a bit.

          For anyone who would like to bookmark a good site that describes the charging system well (for older bikes anyway) check out this site.
          http://www.jetav8r.com/Vision/Stator/Stator.html
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Lonerider62 View Post
            For anyone who would like to bookmark a good site that describes the charging system well (for older bikes anyway) check out this site.
            http://www.jetav8r.com/Vision/Stator/Stator.html
            That site covers the permanent-magnet type alternators (very common on bikes) and isn't applicable to the XS charging system other than the comments about melted connectors. The XS uses a 'brushless' alternator that's a variation on a 'normal' alternator such as you would find in a car (and it's not a commonly used design...). The XJ uses a similar but conventional alternator that does use brushes/slip rings...
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            • #7
              thanks

              you guys are great
              Bike History:1980 XS 1100 special current bike
              1980 XS 850 special wife sold

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