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  • #31
    I get such a kick out of these threads! Fun to read.

    The XS is surely a 90 hp bike, at the crankshaft maybe... Talk rear wheel HP and it's probably 80 hp, and the torque is in the 60 ft/lb range which is what gets you going out of the hole.

    On a 600 lb bike with those numbers (and a powerband that doesn't start until 3k rpm to be honest), I chuckle when we talk that "it will scare you and leave others in it's wake". Maybe if you haven't ridden anything besides an XS your whole life. I don't mean that in a negative way, but the XS is a bike that can go WFO on and lean over in the corners as far as it will go, and it's not even close to other bikes I've owned in terms of the pucker factor (because it doesn't have to lean that far to get to where it's giving most of what it's got, nor does WFO offer a clear and present danger like my Bandit 1200, ST 1300, ZRX 1200).

    As well, the XS isn't a particularly wide powerband. It doesn't wake up until 3k rpm, and the party's over at 8.5k rpm if you care to push it that hard. If you don't push it that hard, you have a powerband that goes to 7.5k or 8k rpm.

    What makes the XS work as well as it does (or as well as it did back in the day) is the short factory gearing that has it spinning high rpm. and uses the gearing to offset the fact the powerband doesn't get going until 3k rpm.

    Yeah, I've done the FD swap and it has even less giddy up below 3k than it did with the stock FD. BUT overall I like the FD swap but let's leave that alone, as that is not the direction of this thread.

    In any case, The XS probably has the ability to keep up with other bikes of similar or newer vintage in terms of straight line, but I don't think it's the one to go through corners with!

    For the record, Motoman has it nailed with his thoughts a few posts back.
    Howard

    ZRX1200

    BTW, ZRX carbs have the same spacing as the XS11... http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35462

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    • #32
      Two Big Jug's

      Don't get me wrong Steve. There are some V Twins I would to have Here is one of my friends

      I Liked it so much, I loaned him my woman (and yes, that realy is MY woman) for a photo shoot


      I thinks she adds something to the bike Don't get me wrong, it's a nice bike
      You Just can't get all of that on the back of my XS, The tire, that is

      Your right about those Big V Twins, nothing like Two Big Jug''s and a nice rear end



      Originally posted by crazy steve View Post
      Careful, you should change that quote to 'any stock HD', as there's an almost unlimited parts well for HD, and gobs of those are hop-up parts. My '93 1200 is putting 85 hp to the rear wheel (the same or more than a well-tuned XS) at 70 lbs less weight. There's some out there with big-bore kits, ported heads, etc that are pumping out over 100 hp, sometimes well over... and don't look any different than a stocker...

      I've even seen a HD bagger that was capable of low 10 second quarters, fast enough to give any metric 'muscle bike' a rude surprise...
      1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
      1980 XS1100 Special
      1990 V Max
      1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
      1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
      1979 XS750 Special (my 1st Special)
      1974 CB750-Four



      Past/pres Car's
      1961 Catalina 389/1970 Torino GT 351/1967GTO 12to1 comp./ Roller cam/ T-10/ 456 gear/Tri-power/1967 GTO 400, 1969 Camaro, 1968 Z28, 2001 BMW M Roadster 0 to 60 in 4.5 sec. Jaguar XK8

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      • #33
        Originally posted by GLoweVA View Post
        I think most of us XS11 owners don't own one for their handling or power, but more for the prestige of owning one of these 'antiques' that still run great for what they were built for.
        I for one don't think I'll ever own any other bike. It does everything I ask of it without every whining about it.
        (even though it may leave a little puddle in the carport every now and then to show me who's the boss! )
        (I guess he's just marking his territory)
        +1 except mine does not mark it's spot
        Phil
        1981 XS1100 H Venturer ( Addie)
        1983 XJ 650 Maxim
        2004 Kawasaki Concours. ( Black Bear)

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