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    Would the clutch wrench from a xs650 fit the xs1100. I want to put the clutch in before I put the foot pegs on. Not sure how to get the nut torqued to spec without a wrench. Mikes has one for the 650 but I haven't seen one for the 1100's. Or can I just put the impact driver on it and achieve a good result close to spec.
    mack
    79 XS 1100 SF Special
    HERMES
    original owner
    http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps6932d5df.jpg

    81 XS 1100 LH MNS
    SPICA
    http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad305/mack-055/2.jpg

    78 XS 11E
    IOTA
    https://youtu.be/wB5Jfbp6SUc
    https://youtu.be/RaI3WYHSuWA



    Have recovery trailer and shop if you breakdown in my area.
    Frankford, Ont, Canada
    613-398-6186

  • #2
    Slip the rear brake lever back on, throw her in gear, and while pushing down the pedal, torque her down.
    2H7 (79) owned since '89
    3H3 owned since '06

    "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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    • #3
      Nope

      No can do, all I have is the frame and motor right now.
      mack
      79 XS 1100 SF Special
      HERMES
      original owner
      http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps6932d5df.jpg

      81 XS 1100 LH MNS
      SPICA
      http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad305/mack-055/2.jpg

      78 XS 11E
      IOTA
      https://youtu.be/wB5Jfbp6SUc
      https://youtu.be/RaI3WYHSuWA



      Have recovery trailer and shop if you breakdown in my area.
      Frankford, Ont, Canada
      613-398-6186

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      • #4
        Then I would set the impact to low and give her a go. Maybe test the torque on a car lug nut to get it close. Hard to say if the tools are the same or not. Maybe try searching for the Yamaha part #'s and compare.
        2H7 (79) owned since '89
        3H3 owned since '06

        "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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        • #5
          not sure if it would work or not,
          can u place a cpl of bolts on the middle drive shaft where the uni joint
          is fitted to the engine, then put a large screwdriver
          between the bolts resting the screwdriver against the frame to stop the
          shaft from turning. engine in gear.

          otherwise as phil stated if u have a rattle gun and
          compressor id use that.
          pete


          new owner of
          08 gen2 hayabusa


          former owner
          1981 xs1100 RH (aus) (5N5)
          zrx carbs
          18mm float height
          145 main jets
          38 pilots
          slide needle shimmed .5mm washer
          fitted with v/stax and uni pod filters

          [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pA8dwxmAVA&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL[/url]

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          • #6
            I'll try

            I'll give that a shot, if it doesn't work I just throw the rear end in, kick it into 2cd and block the wheel from spinning. Seems to me thats how I did the SF. Be nice to have a spare set of and at times. Really pleased with how the paint turned out. Nor sure a camera would do it justice. I'll take some pic's tommorrow and maybe start a rebuild thread.
            mack
            79 XS 1100 SF Special
            HERMES
            original owner
            http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps6932d5df.jpg

            81 XS 1100 LH MNS
            SPICA
            http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad305/mack-055/2.jpg

            78 XS 11E
            IOTA
            https://youtu.be/wB5Jfbp6SUc
            https://youtu.be/RaI3WYHSuWA



            Have recovery trailer and shop if you breakdown in my area.
            Frankford, Ont, Canada
            613-398-6186

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            • #7
              Should proof read

              before I click send. Meant to say a spare set of hands would come in handy at times.
              mack
              79 XS 1100 SF Special
              HERMES
              original owner
              http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps6932d5df.jpg

              81 XS 1100 LH MNS
              SPICA
              http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad305/mack-055/2.jpg

              78 XS 11E
              IOTA
              https://youtu.be/wB5Jfbp6SUc
              https://youtu.be/RaI3WYHSuWA



              Have recovery trailer and shop if you breakdown in my area.
              Frankford, Ont, Canada
              613-398-6186

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              • #8
                Hey Mack,

                I was just reviewing the manual, and they talk about the special clutch holding tool, and that it secures to the clutch basket with 3 bolts that would normally hold the pressure plate/clutch boss in place. The 650 uses the same friction plates as the XS11, but not sure if the spacing/location of the pressure plate/clutch spring bolt stanchions are the same as the 11, so not sure if that tool would work?? I would think it wouldn't be too hard to get a piece of wood or metal if you're so inclined, mark the location of three of the pressure plate bolts and have it have a long enough section that can be held like a handle or wedged against the engine or frame, and a large enough hole/space in the middle for access to the main clutch nut assembly, then secure the homemade tool to the clutch with the 3 spring bolts, more if you want..to help spread the pressure/tension across more of the clutch spring bolt shafts. JAT!?

                Phil, I was also thinking about whether securing the ALT Rotor would provide enough tension to hold the clutch shaft. They talk about a special Rotor tool for holding it while torqueing the rotor bolt, but a large screw driver or metal rod placed thru the spaces of the rotor can wedge it and keep it from turning also...without the use of a special tool.

                T.C.
                T. C. Gresham
                81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
                79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
                History shows again and again,
                How nature points out the folly of men!

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                • #9
                  Mike's XS clutch tool

                  I expect the XS650 clutch tool will fit perfectly. The XS650 and XS1100 friction plates are the same part number. The XS1100 just has more of them. The difference will be a deeper basket for the 11.

                  Marty (in Mississippi)
                  XS1100SG
                  XS650SK
                  XS650SH
                  XS650G
                  XS6502F
                  XS650E

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                  • #10
                    I dont think it will work. I have one and seem to remember trying it and having to block wheel instead.
                    Trapped in time. Surrounded by evil. Low on gas.

                    1980 XS1100G 1179 kit, Tkat brace, progressive springs & shocks, jardine spaghetti, Mikes coils, Geezer's rectifier

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                    • #11
                      Marty,

                      I couldn't see the tool very well in the manual, and it was the Xj manaual, but there's no place to bolt that to the pressure plate?? The description of the securing tool for tightening the main clutch nut mentioned securing it to the pressure plate with 3 of the clutch spring bolts.

                      That tool IIRC is for either fitting around the clutch boss that fits down into the clutch basket, I guess it could hold/secure the clutch basket by temporarily fitting the clutch boss into the basket with that tool inbetween, which would help hold/secure the basket....but then again maybe not unless the friction and steels were in place and the other pressure plate bolts were on and tightened down, otherwise the outer basket will just spin around the inner clutch boss!

                      I've never used that tool, just the wedge the final drive/tranny/rear wheel to be able to torque the main clutch nut.

                      T.C.
                      T. C. Gresham
                      81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
                      79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
                      History shows again and again,
                      How nature points out the folly of men!

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                      • #12
                        confused

                        I am, Like Phip said, hold the thing in place and hit with an impact till tight I haven't done this one yet, but, every impact I have used will tighten a bolt if holding the spinning part with a glove Is this on that differant
                        1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
                        1980 XS1100 Special
                        1990 V Max
                        1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
                        1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
                        1979 XS750 Special (my 1st Special)
                        1974 CB750-Four



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                        1961 Catalina 389/1970 Torino GT 351/1967GTO 12to1 comp./ Roller cam/ T-10/ 456 gear/Tri-power/1967 GTO 400, 1969 Camaro, 1968 Z28, 2001 BMW M Roadster 0 to 60 in 4.5 sec. Jaguar XK8

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                        • #13
                          I guess it could hold/secure the clutch basket by temporarily fitting the clutch boss into the basket with that tool inbetween, which would help hold/secure the basket
                          I believe that's how it works. If it works on the XS650, it stands to reason that it will work on the XS1100 as the clutches are so very similar. As stated previously, the plates interchange.
                          Marty (in Mississippi)
                          XS1100SG
                          XS650SK
                          XS650SH
                          XS650G
                          XS6502F
                          XS650E

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                          • #14
                            Ordered

                            Well I went ahead and ordered the tool. I"m not worried about the down time waiting for it to arrive. Hurt my back a bit getting the motor into the frame, so I'll wait a bit anyway before bending and stooping over the clutch etc. I'll post how well it works in a few days. Handy to know.Thanx for the responses.
                            mack
                            79 XS 1100 SF Special
                            HERMES
                            original owner
                            http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps6932d5df.jpg

                            81 XS 1100 LH MNS
                            SPICA
                            http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad305/mack-055/2.jpg

                            78 XS 11E
                            IOTA
                            https://youtu.be/wB5Jfbp6SUc
                            https://youtu.be/RaI3WYHSuWA



                            Have recovery trailer and shop if you breakdown in my area.
                            Frankford, Ont, Canada
                            613-398-6186

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                            • #15
                              For $9, what have you got to lose? If it doesn't work, I'll buy it from you. I have a garage full of XS650's.
                              Marty (in Mississippi)
                              XS1100SG
                              XS650SK
                              XS650SH
                              XS650G
                              XS6502F
                              XS650E

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