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    Factory Manuals....

    Ok, I'm curious.... how many 'kinds' of factory manuals are out there? I'm not talking about aftermarket manuals like the Clymer, but the official, published-by-Yamaha manuals. This was brought up by this thread: http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34469.

    I've seen 'complete' factory manuals for the '78E models only, and the '78-80 bikes (with all the changes after '78 through '80 included as 'supplemental' info in the back of the book), but I've never seen a 'complete' factory manual for say, just the '78-79 bikes, or a all-inclusive version covering all the '78 through '81 bikes (the one C'bug has listed on his site is actually just the '78E only version). I see the various model 'supplements' offered on eBay, but that's it.

    Anybody got a version other than what's listed above? I should note that I'm excluding the non-US versions, as there's enough differences between the bikes that a manual for those would be of limited usefulness to a US owner....
    Last edited by crazy steve; 10-23-2011, 11:38 AM.
    Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

    '78E original owner - resto project
    '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
    '82 XJ rebuild project
    '80SG restified, red SOLD
    '79F parts...
    '81H more parts...

    Other current bikes:
    '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
    '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
    '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
    Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
    Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...
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  • #2
    I have a Geniune Yamaha manual that covers the XS1100E/F/SF. The F an SF are supplementary in the back. 1st edition Jan 1979. Not sure if this is helpful or not
    2-79 XS1100 SF
    2-78 XS1100 E Best bike Ever
    80 XS 1100 SG Big bore kit but not fully running yet.
    Couple of more parts bikes of which 2 more will live!

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    • #3
      I have a genuine factory service manual LIT-11616-XS-13 1st Edition June 1981 it states that it provides complete service information for: XS1100 H/SH/LH and incorporates the service manual for the E and supplements for LH/H/SH
      I also have the XS1100H assembly manual LIT-11666-02-40/4R1-281076-10
      BAMN!

      '81 XS1100H "Brutus"

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      • #4
        Maybe post pics of the covers so everyone knows what to look for?....
        Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

        '78E original owner - resto project
        '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
        '82 XJ rebuild project
        '80SG restified, red SOLD
        '79F parts...
        '81H more parts...

        Other current bikes:
        '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
        '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
        '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
        Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
        Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Nubian View Post
          I have a genuine factory service manual LIT-11616-XS-13 1st Edition June 1981 it states that it provides complete service information for: XS1100 H/SH/LH and incorporates the service manual for the E and supplements for LH/H/SH
          I also have the XS1100H assembly manual LIT-11666-02-40/4R1-281076-10


          BAMN!

          '81 XS1100H "Brutus"

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          • #6
            Originally posted by crazy steve View Post
            Ok, I'm curious.... how many 'kinds' of factory manuals are out there? I'm not talking about aftermarket manuals like the Clymer, but the official, published-by-Yamaha manuals. ...
            You can get a list of XS1100 Yamaha manuals that I've got cover pics for from the XS Part Numbers site - select Model = "Any XS1100", Where on the Bike = "Yamaha Accessories", aand type "Manual" into the box called "Part Name Contains".

            The general rule is there is a single XS1100 Service Manual then Supplementary Manuals for each model (even the E!). Note that these Supplementary Manuals are cumulative over the years. e.g. The Supplementary Service Manual for the SH says that you must use the manual together with the following manuals :

            XS1100 E Service Manual
            XS1100 F Supplementary Service Manual
            XS1100 SF Supplementary Service Manual
            XS1100 G/SG Supplementary Service Manual
            Brian
            XS1100 LG "Mr T", SG "ICBM" & FJ1200
            Check out the XS Part Number Finder

            Be not stingy in what costs nothing as courtesy, counsel and countenance.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Nubian View Post
              I have a genuine factory service manual LIT-11616-XS-13 1st Edition June 1981 it states that it provides complete service information for: XS1100 H/SH/LH and incorporates the service manual for the E and supplements for LH/H/SH
              I also have the XS1100H assembly manual LIT-11666-02-40/4R1-281076-10
              So you're saying this manual doesn't contain the supplements for the F, SF, G, and SG?

              I've got two manuals; my original, bought-with-the-bike E manual seen here...

              [IMG][/IMG]

              Contains only E info, and has two part numbers; the LIT-11616-00-81 number, as well as a 'regular' part number, 2H7-28197-10. This is the second printing (Jan 78).

              And here's the newer version that covers the 78-80 bikes....

              [IMG][/IMG]

              This covers the E as the 'basic' model (with that part of the manual being virtually identical to my 78-only manual), then has separate supplements covering the F, SF, G, and SG models in the back. The number is LIT-11616-XS-12. There's a reference to a '78-79 manual on the inside flyleaf page, LIT-11616-XS-11 (apparently the version Rasputin has) that only covers those bikes. I've personally never seen one of those...

              These two are the 'complete' manuals that seem to turn up the most on the used market here in the US. Interestingly enough, neither of these are listed on the UK site, so feel free to use these pics to update...
              Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

              '78E original owner - resto project
              '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
              '82 XJ rebuild project
              '80SG restified, red SOLD
              '79F parts...
              '81H more parts...

              Other current bikes:
              '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
              '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
              '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
              Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
              Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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              • #8
                Yamaha 1980 XS1100 G , SG, F, SF and E factory service manual.

                A cat made a nest on the manual but the publication number is:
                LIT-11616-XS-12
                3rd Printing - February 1981
                -- Scott
                _____
                ♬
                2004 ST1300A: No name... yet
                1982 XJ1100J: "Baby" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
                1980 XS1100G: "Columbo" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
                1979 XS1100SF: "Bush" W.I.P.
                1979 XS1100F: parts
                2018 Heritage Softail Classic 117 FLHCS SE: "Nanuk" It's DEAD, it's not just resting. It is an EX cycle.
                ♬

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                • #9
                  Now that's interesting....

                  That appears to be the same manual as my newer one (with just a different cover) as it has the same part number. The interesting part is the fact that Yamaha didn't include the '81 model bikes...

                  This had to have been printed sometime after '94; that's when Yamaha made the switch to the 'Star' name for their street bikes sold in the US. So I wonder why at this late date they failed to include the '81 bikes when reprinting the manual? Are the '81 bikes considered an orphan, even by Yamaha?

                  Hmmm....
                  Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

                  '78E original owner - resto project
                  '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
                  '82 XJ rebuild project
                  '80SG restified, red SOLD
                  '79F parts...
                  '81H more parts...

                  Other current bikes:
                  '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
                  '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
                  '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
                  Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
                  Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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                  • #10
                    After exploring the 'Star' motorcycle site, I found that Yamaha still offers factory service manuals... for $93!!! And it's 'print on demand', whatever than means...

                    http://www.yamahapubs.com/index.do
                    Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

                    '78E original owner - resto project
                    '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
                    '82 XJ rebuild project
                    '80SG restified, red SOLD
                    '79F parts...
                    '81H more parts...

                    Other current bikes:
                    '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
                    '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
                    '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
                    Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
                    Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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                    • #11
                      After exploring the 'Star' motorcycle site, I found that Yamaha still offers factory service manuals...
                      Do you think the XS1100G manual includes the SG? I see the XS850SG listed
                      Marty (in Mississippi)
                      XS1100SG
                      XS650SK
                      XS650SH
                      XS650G
                      XS6502F
                      XS650E

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by jetmechmarty View Post
                        Do you think the XS1100G manual includes the SG? I see the XS850SG listed
                        I think you'll find that if you look up the E, F, SF, G, SG, and LG manuals, you'll find the same part number for all; only the '81 manuals seem to different....
                        Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

                        '78E original owner - resto project
                        '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
                        '82 XJ rebuild project
                        '80SG restified, red SOLD
                        '79F parts...
                        '81H more parts...

                        Other current bikes:
                        '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
                        '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
                        '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
                        Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
                        Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by crazy steve View Post
                          So you're saying this manual doesn't contain the supplements for the F, SF, G, and SG?

                          I've got two manuals; my original, bought-with-the-bike E manual seen here...

                          [IMG][/IMG]

                          Contains only E info, and has two part numbers; the LIT-11616-00-81 number, as well as a 'regular' part number, 2H7-28197-10. This is the second printing (Jan 78).

                          And here's the newer version that covers the 78-80 bikes....

                          [IMG][/IMG]

                          This covers the E as the 'basic' model (with that part of the manual being virtually identical to my 78-only manual), then has separate supplements covering the F, SF, G, and SG models in the back. The number is LIT-11616-XS-12. There's a reference to a '78-79 manual on the inside flyleaf page, LIT-11616-XS-11 (apparently the version Rasputin has) that only covers those bikes. I've personally never seen one of those...

                          These two are the 'complete' manuals that seem to turn up the most on the used market here in the US. Interestingly enough, neither of these are listed on the UK site, so feel free to use these pics to update...
                          That's correct it does not contain supplements for F,SF,G,SG.
                          BAMN!

                          '81 XS1100H "Brutus"

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                          • #14
                            Little late here, But here is a pic of mine.

                            2-79 XS1100 SF
                            2-78 XS1100 E Best bike Ever
                            80 XS 1100 SG Big bore kit but not fully running yet.
                            Couple of more parts bikes of which 2 more will live!

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