The teardown has begun ...

['OlGuiltyBoy]

Well, we've been having some strange weather in Va lately, today wasn't too cold/chilly like the past few days. I was standing in garage looking at my bike when I found the original tool bag in a little compartment behind the battery (all my original tools were left behind in a move a few weeks ago, yes I am VERY pissed!)
So I started taking off everything that I could and trashing it - tanks finally off, got the carbs off so I can finally get to cleaning those in the near future. Found that the left rear frame had a crack in it. Right where the double weld is in front of the turn signal --- out came the sawz all! No doubling up for me anymore (don't really care) And while breaking out the sawz all I found some more metric wrenches and stuff from my last fz600 project - center stand OFF. Got the exhaust off and trashed the slip ons, they were pretty fried anyway. Gonna take the headers to a place in Manassas and ask if they're worth saving because some of the rust spots seem pretty thick - and if not gonna get him to make me some more and throw some Cherry Bomb glasspacks on the end of 'em. Loud pipes save lives!!!!! I'm going to try XSChops Hayabusa front end conversion - and grab myself a chain conversion. Going to have a custom
McIntosh swing arm made for the rear. I took aome pics of the start of the project and will start posting them once i get my computer fixed. Oh yea, I
can't recall if the PO jetted the carbs or not ... I want to say he did, but say he didn't -- if I'm getting these Cherry Bombs put on there, what size kit should I get to throw back in the carbs?

[cywelchjr]

As fare as I know, nobody has ever gotten one to run work crap with cherry bombs on it, as there is not enough back pressure to make the system happy enough to work properly. The induction system on these bikes REQUIRES a certain amount of back pressure to work properly, and without it, will only run well at full throttle. The best performance overall is gotten with the stock exhaust system. Other systems increase performance at the extreme high end by decreasing performance in the rest of the areas, usually significantly. The less back pressure you have in relation to the stock system, the harder the system becomes to tune, with straight pipes being pretty much impossible, and cherry bombs are pretty much the same as straight pipes.

[natemoen]

As fare as I know, nobody has ever gotten one to run work crap with cherry bombs on it, as there is not enough back pressure to make the system happy enough to work properly. The induction system on these bikes REQUIRES a certain amount of back pressure to work properly, and without it, will only run well at full throttle. The best performance overall is gotten with the stock exhaust system. Other systems increase performance at the extreme high end by decreasing performance in the rest of the areas, usually significantly. The less back pressure you have in relation to the stock system, the harder the system becomes to tune, with straight pipes being pretty much impossible, and cherry bombs are pretty much the same as straight pipes.

Yup, those that have tried have failed and finally found something better that actually works.

['OlGuiltyBoy]

I'm pretty sure I can get him to throw some baffles in there somewhere for a little back pressure .... It is a "custom" shop. Anything is possible .... Just like all the stories in the past about the chain conversion - that's totally possible too despite what others thought.

[jwhughes3]

chain conversion for sure

One guy - chopshop or shopchop I think - did it and blogged about it...

But shaft drive is part of the appeal and advantage an xs11 offers...


Maybe YOU like adjusting chains every 500 miles. Not me!

But good luck on the exhaust.

Looking forward to pix...love to watch projects unfold.

John

[DGXSER]

The lure of the chain drive on these is that you can get a much bigger piece of meat on the back. Personally, I have yet to find that even in hard acceleration I smoke the tire instead fo taking off like a rocket, and the handling of an XS11 has never been an issue of rear tire grip, so I am not sure what the appaeal of a bigger tire is other than looks.

But then, loks is what can make it your bike and not any other XS11. So have fun with it doing what you like. XSchop has made some chain drive setups. Probably still does or would.

['OlGuiltyBoy]

The lure of the chain drive on these is that you can get a much bigger piece of meat on the back. Personally, I have yet to find that even in hard acceleration I smoke the tire instead fo taking off like a rocket, and the handling of an XS11 has never been an issue of rear tire grip, so I am not sure what the appaeal of a bigger tire is other than looks.

But then, loks is what can make it your bike and not any other XS11. So have fun with it doing what you like. XSchop has made some chain drive setups. Probably still does or would.

That's exactly what it is - to be different and make it MY bike. Only wanting to go up to a 190.

[bikerphil]

Just be aware that with the Xchop chain drive, you will be limited to running a tiny front sprocket (12 or 13T?) which will eat chains right quick. IIRC, a chaindrive made to run with the chain on the outside of the frame, you can run a larger front. Just some thoughts.

['OlGuiltyBoy]

Just be aware that with the Xchop chain drive, you will be limited to running a tiny front sprocket (12 or 13T?) which will eat chains right quick. IIRC, a chaindrive made to run with the chain on the outside of the frame, you can run a larger front. Just some thoughts.

Thought I saw somewhere you could run a 15 or 16 tooth with Chops conversion ... I'm going to have to find that thread somewhere - ive read so much **** on here since I joined up.

[bikerphil]

There was this guy viper that made another type of chain drive, click on the ebay link in the first post...

http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread...hlight=laconia

[crazy steve]

Thought I saw somewhere you could run a 15 or 16 tooth with Chops conversion ... I'm going to have to find that thread somewhere - ive read so much **** on here since I joined up.

IIRC, the max size sprocket you can run is a 14 tooth if running a 530 chain; still awful small for decent chain life. If you go to the smaller 520 chain (finding the sprocket is the key here), you can go up a few teeth but the lighter chain wears about the same....

['OlGuiltyBoy]

I'm gonna say 15 with you maybe having to shave a few MM off the front case so the chain wont rub. Mind you I say millimeters, not inches, so its not a big deal ...Plus we're dealing with an off-set front sprocket. Most sport liter bikes come with a 17T front sprocket with people usually doing a -1/+2 swap. So I think going down -2 in the front isnt going to be that much of a difference. And yes, thats with a 530 chain as well ...

['OlGuiltyBoy]

I am correct....

14/42 gearing with a 530 chain ...
(2mm can be shaved off the engine case to fit a 15T)

['OlGuiltyBoy]

So I just got done yanking parts off the bike ... Nothing left to do now but build her back up. I'm going to get some bolt on forward controls I found for this bike, and with the linkage kit that comes with it I'm going to set up a foot clutch on the left. Do a behind the leg shifter on the left as well .... Drag bars, Pingel petcocks and fuel filters, new front brake lever with master cylinder and some solid struts.

So with that said, I have a few parts I want to get rid of ... I've had paypal since forever and now I might get to use it. The parts are listed in the for sale section....

I don't know the price for shipping yet, I haven't had a chance to go check out what will fit in the flat rate boxes. They will all be boxed and shipped
separately though. pm me if interested, first come first serve.

['OlGuiltyBoy]

Listed some more parts for sale ... check out the for sale section.