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  • Blasted Needle valves WILL NOT SEAL

    I'm trying to bench test my carbs before putting them back on the bike. I was having some flooding past the needle valves so I replaced all 4 with Yamaha OEM needle valves with needles. I also replaced the fuel "T"s and for the bench test I put the carbs upside down on the Bench and hook up a vac pump to the fuel supply hose. I can not get ether pair to hold a vacuum. 3 years ago when I restored this bike I had not problem getting the needle valves to hold a vacuum on the same test method so I am sure they are going to leak.
    I'm wondering if I should perhaps use a set of the rubber tipped needles I have here. Will they fit if I remove the little wire brackets that are used to hold those needles to the floats?
    Rob
    KEEP THE RUBBER SIDE DOWN

    1978 XS1100E Modified
    1978 XS500E
    1979 XS1100F Restored
    1980 XS1100 SG
    1981 Suzuki GS1100
    1983 Suzuki GS750S Katana
    1983 Honda CB900 Custom

  • #2
    Hey Rob,

    The rubber/viton tipped valves will not work in the metal valve style seats, they are too big and will get stuck. That's why folks have to get the valve seats from the XV920 or such that screw in to the older carbs and have enough room for the wider vition tipped valves.

    Just a suggestion, you said you replaced the "T" connectors, but have you tried putting your finger/tape over the valve seat opening and then applied the vacuum pump to ensure that you can get a vacuum without the needle? You might have a leak at the "T" connector even with NEW ones?? JAT?

    T.C.
    T. C. Gresham
    81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
    79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
    History shows again and again,
    How nature points out the folly of men!

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    • #3
      Ya, that was the first thing I did which is what resulted in the new "T"s but I have not had the bowls off again since then. So I guess I will have to do a vac test with the needle valves removed then with the valves in place to check their seal and then with the needles again.
      Rob
      KEEP THE RUBBER SIDE DOWN

      1978 XS1100E Modified
      1978 XS500E
      1979 XS1100F Restored
      1980 XS1100 SG
      1981 Suzuki GS1100
      1983 Suzuki GS750S Katana
      1983 Honda CB900 Custom

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      • #4
        I have seen some stick float pivots before...
        Skids (Sid Hansen)

        Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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        • #5
          Float valves

          Get the XV 920 float valves, no more problems. Best money I ever spent on my carbs.
          1979XS1100SF
          K&N's and drilled airbox
          Jardine 4in1
          Dunlop Elite 3's
          JBM slide diaphragms
          142.5 main jets
          45 pilot jets
          T.C.'s fusebox & SOFA
          750/850 FD mod.
          XV 920 Needle Mod.
          Mike's XS plastic floats set at 26mm
          Venture Cam Chain Tensioner

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          • #6
            Once you make the switch, you will never go back to all brass. Especially considering that once you have the seats, you will only ever have to buy just the needles.
            '81 XS1100 SH

            Melted to the ground during The Valley Fire

            Sep. 12th 2015

            RIP

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Toolmaker Tim View Post
              Get the XV 920 float valves, no more problems. Best money I ever spent on my carbs.
              Are they going to thread right into place on these 79 carbs?
              Rob
              KEEP THE RUBBER SIDE DOWN

              1978 XS1100E Modified
              1978 XS500E
              1979 XS1100F Restored
              1980 XS1100 SG
              1981 Suzuki GS1100
              1983 Suzuki GS750S Katana
              1983 Honda CB900 Custom

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