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    Hi guys, all electonics work perfectly on Beastly with one exception. When the Hi/Low beam switch is on "Low", the high beam is on, and the hi beam indicator comes on full power (the blue light). When the switch is on "Hi", the beam is low and the hi beam indicator still glows but dimmer. Neither the hi, nor the low beams themselves are very bright either. I stink at electrical stuff, any thoughts?
    '79 XS11 Special, fork gaiters, Uni pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, ditched the octy, solo seat, T kat fork brace

    Purrs like a kitten, runs like a scalded cat

  • #2
    Sounds like you have a wire swapped in a connector somewhere. Try swapping the 2 non-ground leads at the headlight bulb and see if that changes anything.
    1980 XS850SG - Sold
    1981 XS1100LH Midnight Special (Sold) - purchased 9/29/08
    Fully Vetterized and Dynojet Kit added, Heated Grips, Truck-Lite LED headlight, Accel Coils, Irridium plugs, TKAT Fork Brace, XS850LH Final Drive & Black SS Brake lines from Chacal.
    Here's my web page devoted to my bike! XS/XJ User's Manuals there, and the XJ1100 Service Manual and both XS1100 Service manuals (free download!).

    Whether you think you can, or you think you cannot - You're right.
    -H. Ford

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    • #3
      Just had the exact same problem; it's a bad connection at either the RLU or where the handlebar control plugs into the main harness...
      Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

      '78E original owner - resto project
      '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
      '82 XJ rebuild project
      '80SG restified, red SOLD
      '79F parts...
      '81H more parts...

      Other current bikes:
      '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
      '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
      '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
      Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
      Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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      • #4
        Originally posted by 11Rider View Post
        Hi guys, all electonics work perfectly on Beastly with one exception. When the Hi/Low beam switch is on "Low", the high beam is on, and the hi beam indicator comes on full power (the blue light). When the switch is on "Hi", the beam is low and the hi beam indicator still glows but dimmer. Neither the hi, nor the low beams themselves are very bright either. I stink at electrical stuff, any thoughts?
        In either position does the headlamp light come on? If so, check the headlight bulb, that can be one of the symptoms of the headlight bulb being partially burned out and the RLU kicking in to keep the headlight on at all times.
        Cy

        1980 XS1100G (Brutus) w/81H Engine
        Duplicolor Mirage Paint Job (Purple/Green)
        Vetter Windjammer IV
        Vetter hard bags & Trunk
        OEM Luggage Rack
        Jardine Spaghetti 4-2 exhaust system
        Spade Fuse Box
        Turn Signal Auto Cancel Mod
        750 FD Mod
        TC Spin on Oil Filter Adapter (temp removed)
        XJ1100 Front Footpegs
        XJ1100 Shocks

        I was always taught to respect my elders, but it keeps getting harder to find one.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by crazy steve View Post
          Just had the exact same problem; it's a bad connection at either the RLU or where the handlebar control plugs into the main harness...
          I'm sure I should know this, but what is the RLU?
          '79 XS11 Special, fork gaiters, Uni pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, ditched the octy, solo seat, T kat fork brace

          Purrs like a kitten, runs like a scalded cat

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          • #6
            Originally posted by cywelchjr View Post
            In either position does the headlamp light come on? If so, check the headlight bulb, that can be one of the symptoms of the headlight bulb being partially burned out and the RLU kicking in to keep the headlight on at all times.
            I was wondering about the bulb because the light pattern doesn't seem right. I'll check into this too. Thank you!
            '79 XS11 Special, fork gaiters, Uni pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, ditched the octy, solo seat, T kat fork brace

            Purrs like a kitten, runs like a scalded cat

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            • #7
              Originally posted by 11Rider View Post
              I'm sure I should know this, but what is the RLU?
              Reserve Lighting Unit; the black box mounted next to the regulator...
              Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

              '78E original owner - resto project
              '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
              '82 XJ rebuild project
              '80SG restified, red SOLD
              '79F parts...
              '81H more parts...

              Other current bikes:
              '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
              '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
              '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
              Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
              Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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              • #8
                Oh, thank you!
                '79 XS11 Special, fork gaiters, Uni pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, ditched the octy, solo seat, T kat fork brace

                Purrs like a kitten, runs like a scalded cat

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                • #9
                  Just to clarify: the Reserve Lighting Unit is a bit of electronics in the lighting harness that will turn on the low beam on even if the high beam is burned out, and the same for a burned out low beam, it also turns on a white indicator to let you know a filament is burned out. It's purpose was to make sure that you had SOME light if one of the filaments was burned out. Riding at night in the country at 80 mph in the dark can probably get real interesting real fast...
                  -- Clint
                  1979 XS1100F - bought for $500 in 1989

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                  • #10
                    Either wiring or the bulb can cause it to trigger, so check both, but especially if the headlamp light is lit, check the bulb, cause many times people run around checking everything in the world EXCEPT the bulb in these cases in finally check the bulb and find it to be burned out. So check both.
                    Cy

                    1980 XS1100G (Brutus) w/81H Engine
                    Duplicolor Mirage Paint Job (Purple/Green)
                    Vetter Windjammer IV
                    Vetter hard bags & Trunk
                    OEM Luggage Rack
                    Jardine Spaghetti 4-2 exhaust system
                    Spade Fuse Box
                    Turn Signal Auto Cancel Mod
                    750 FD Mod
                    TC Spin on Oil Filter Adapter (temp removed)
                    XJ1100 Front Footpegs
                    XJ1100 Shocks

                    I was always taught to respect my elders, but it keeps getting harder to find one.

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                    • #11
                      I will check the bulb abd I suspect it's the culprit since the light pattern doesn't seem right. A sixteen hour work day put the kabosh on any detective work today though
                      '79 XS11 Special, fork gaiters, Uni pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, ditched the octy, solo seat, T kat fork brace

                      Purrs like a kitten, runs like a scalded cat

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by clcorbin View Post
                        Just to clarify: the Reserve Lighting Unit is a bit of electronics in the lighting harness that will turn on the low beam on even if the high beam is burned out, and the same for a burned out low beam, it also turns on a white indicator to let you know a filament is burned out. It's purpose was to make sure that you had SOME light if one of the filaments was burned out.
                        Actually, it only goes one way. If the low beam dies, it turns the high beam on at a reduced wattage and lights the idiot light on the dash. It does not sense if the high beam goes out.
                        1980 XS850SG - Sold
                        1981 XS1100LH Midnight Special (Sold) - purchased 9/29/08
                        Fully Vetterized and Dynojet Kit added, Heated Grips, Truck-Lite LED headlight, Accel Coils, Irridium plugs, TKAT Fork Brace, XS850LH Final Drive & Black SS Brake lines from Chacal.
                        Here's my web page devoted to my bike! XS/XJ User's Manuals there, and the XJ1100 Service Manual and both XS1100 Service manuals (free download!).

                        Whether you think you can, or you think you cannot - You're right.
                        -H. Ford

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                        • #13
                          Sorry 'bug, but the RLU does both the low and high beam... if yours doesn't, it's not working right..
                          Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

                          '78E original owner - resto project
                          '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
                          '82 XJ rebuild project
                          '80SG restified, red SOLD
                          '79F parts...
                          '81H more parts...

                          Other current bikes:
                          '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
                          '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
                          '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
                          Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
                          Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by crazy steve View Post
                            Sorry 'bug, but the RLU does both the low and high beam... if yours doesn't, it's not working right..
                            Well, mine is bypassed now since I have the HID setup. But when it was still in the circuit, it didn't do anything if the high beam filament went out. It just used the seldom-used high beam to replace the low beam when it died, lighting it at a lower wattage (actually much lower than the regular low beam).
                            1980 XS850SG - Sold
                            1981 XS1100LH Midnight Special (Sold) - purchased 9/29/08
                            Fully Vetterized and Dynojet Kit added, Heated Grips, Truck-Lite LED headlight, Accel Coils, Irridium plugs, TKAT Fork Brace, XS850LH Final Drive & Black SS Brake lines from Chacal.
                            Here's my web page devoted to my bike! XS/XJ User's Manuals there, and the XJ1100 Service Manual and both XS1100 Service manuals (free download!).

                            Whether you think you can, or you think you cannot - You're right.
                            -H. Ford

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by CatatonicBug View Post
                              Well, mine is bypassed now since I have the HID setup. But when it was still in the circuit, it didn't do anything if the high beam filament went out. It just used the seldom-used high beam to replace the low beam when it died, lighting it at a lower wattage (actually much lower than the regular low beam).
                              There is/was something wrong with yours then. I tested mine when assembling the SG, and if either filament wasn't connected the RLU would switch to the other and light the indicator. You are right about the high-as-low beam, as the RLU dims the high beam quite a bit... but some light is better than no light...
                              Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

                              '78E original owner - resto project
                              '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
                              '82 XJ rebuild project
                              '80SG restified, red SOLD
                              '79F parts...
                              '81H more parts...

                              Other current bikes:
                              '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
                              '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
                              '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
                              Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
                              Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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