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  • I need a good replacement battery

    looking for a good sealed maintenance free battery. thanks
    "Lead by example, Follow by choice"

    1979 xs1100sf 10,182 miles

  • #2
    sealed battery?

    edavi394,

    When my maintenance free battery failed last month I took a look at the one available from Sears.

    http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...06000P?prdNo=1

    I wasn't happy with that price so I went with an "alternate" battery from another parts provider. View the video to see where I and others followed in the footsteps of members who were in the same situation...



    Note: The battery wasn't listed on the "alternate" provider's website. I had to call the individual store(s) in my area to confirm if they had the battery (Part Number...) on their shelf...

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    • #3
      I got mine at the local part store. They had it in stock. Price was $78. If I waited it would be $10 cheaper. I couldn't wait.
      1979 XS1100F (runnin the wheels off it)
      1979 XS650 (ran the wheels off it)
      1976 CB550F (ran the wheels off it)

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      • #4
        I got mine from walmart for like $47 like 6 months ago and so far it's still working like new. For the price it works just fine. It's one of their stock batteries too. If you don't mind dropping 2.5 bills though, that battery t99ford uses looks like a nice unit, lighter and smaller and more cranking power and life. I'm seriously considering it for my next battery. They even have a listing for our bikes, they are rather pricey though.
        Last edited by Ken Talbot; 07-28-2011, 05:44 PM. Reason: quoted inlammatory post removed by moderator
        Cy

        1980 XS1100G (Brutus) w/81H Engine
        Duplicolor Mirage Paint Job (Purple/Green)
        Vetter Windjammer IV
        Vetter hard bags & Trunk
        OEM Luggage Rack
        Jardine Spaghetti 4-2 exhaust system
        Spade Fuse Box
        Turn Signal Auto Cancel Mod
        750 FD Mod
        TC Spin on Oil Filter Adapter (temp removed)
        XJ1100 Front Footpegs
        XJ1100 Shocks

        I was always taught to respect my elders, but it keeps getting harder to find one.

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        • #5
          From what I understand, the maint-free ones don't last any longer than the standard lead-acid ones. Why pay more? You can get the standard ones at WalMart.
          1980 XS850SG - Sold
          1981 XS1100LH Midnight Special (Sold) - purchased 9/29/08
          Fully Vetterized and Dynojet Kit added, Heated Grips, Truck-Lite LED headlight, Accel Coils, Irridium plugs, TKAT Fork Brace, XS850LH Final Drive & Black SS Brake lines from Chacal.
          Here's my web page devoted to my bike! XS/XJ User's Manuals there, and the XJ1100 Service Manual and both XS1100 Service manuals (free download!).

          Whether you think you can, or you think you cannot - You're right.
          -H. Ford

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          • #6
            Sorry, yeah, mine is not maint free, but most feedback has been that maint free don't last as long, cost more, and don't work any better . So I ask you, what's the cost benefit? I see no reason to move to something that doesn't work better, doesn't last as long, and costs more, at least the Shorai batteries last longer, have more cranking power and have less weight than the normal batteries. Take a look at this listing for the batteries for our bikes. Yes they cost more, but the benefits are actually there unlike the glass mat ones that actually don't last as long.
            Cy

            1980 XS1100G (Brutus) w/81H Engine
            Duplicolor Mirage Paint Job (Purple/Green)
            Vetter Windjammer IV
            Vetter hard bags & Trunk
            OEM Luggage Rack
            Jardine Spaghetti 4-2 exhaust system
            Spade Fuse Box
            Turn Signal Auto Cancel Mod
            750 FD Mod
            TC Spin on Oil Filter Adapter (temp removed)
            XJ1100 Front Footpegs
            XJ1100 Shocks

            I was always taught to respect my elders, but it keeps getting harder to find one.

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            • #7
              "at least the Shorai batteries last longer" How would you know? They havent even been around long and continued to sell a battery they knew had problems.

              I use a deka etx 18l agm ( also sold as Big Crank) . I have a Bikemaster gel in another bike. No acid means no leak or maintenance. I sometimes wonder what personal experience people have when recommending or condemning products.
              Trapped in time. Surrounded by evil. Low on gas.

              1980 XS1100G 1179 kit, Tkat brace, progressive springs & shocks, jardine spaghetti, Mikes coils, Geezer's rectifier

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Elevener View Post
                "at least the Shorai batteries last longer" How would you know? They havent even been around long and continued to sell a battery they knew had problems.

                I use a deka etx 18l agm ( also sold as Big Crank) . I have a Bikemaster gel in another bike. No acid means no leak or maintenance. I sometimes wonder what personal experience people have when recommending or condemning products.
                I have a LOT of riding friends who have run both maint free and standard batteries and almost without exception they get 2 to 3 times as much life out of the standard batteries as the maint free ones. This also matches with the feedback I got from the local battery store when checking on them, who recommended staying away from them, as he has a high return rate on them under warranty. As he said "it doesn't cost me anything, I get reimbursed, but your sitting on the side of the road with a bike that won't start", he said goldwing owners had the most trouble from what he had seen, although most of those I know ride hardleys, maybe they shake them to death. I know there have got to be some good ones out there, but the feedback I've gotten, is that most of them are junk, and that most people buy the junk, cause unless you know where to buy, that's usually all that you can get locally.

                Now I'll jinx myself, while I've had acid spills in cars, and maint free batteries work great there, I've never had an acid spill in a bike, so far. But you are right, you gotta pay attention to them and keep them filled. But you gotta admit, they are cheap.
                Cy

                1980 XS1100G (Brutus) w/81H Engine
                Duplicolor Mirage Paint Job (Purple/Green)
                Vetter Windjammer IV
                Vetter hard bags & Trunk
                OEM Luggage Rack
                Jardine Spaghetti 4-2 exhaust system
                Spade Fuse Box
                Turn Signal Auto Cancel Mod
                750 FD Mod
                TC Spin on Oil Filter Adapter (temp removed)
                XJ1100 Front Footpegs
                XJ1100 Shocks

                I was always taught to respect my elders, but it keeps getting harder to find one.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by edavi394 View Post
                  looking for a good sealed maintenance free battery. thanks
                  I'm with Cy on this one; there ain't no such thing as a 'good' sealed battery; they seem to last 2-3 years and that's it. The 'cheap' non-sealed will last that long easily if activated properly and maintained, most I've had have gone 6 years +....
                  Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

                  '78E original owner - resto project
                  '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
                  '82 XJ rebuild project
                  '80SG restified, red SOLD
                  '79F parts...
                  '81H more parts...

                  Other current bikes:
                  '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
                  '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
                  '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
                  Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
                  Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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                  • #10
                    Response times of "Live" versus "Search"...

                    edavi394

                    You did get your "answer from their knowledge on what they used and where they got it " and in the first response to your post. That "Sears sealed maintenance free battery" was the one which I was replacing after 4 years. The time between your question and the answer was a little over 2 hours.

                    Regarding "saving an hour of searching the forums" by NOT using the search function I would have to disagree based upon my own experience. When my battery "died" last month I didn't post a "Where can I get this part?" in the forum here. I used the search function. The thread containing the information I needed was on the very first page that the search function displayed. I found the supplier and part number for the battery I wanted within 10 minutes. 10 minutes later I had confirmed by telephone that the "supplier" had the battery I wanted. Less than an hour later I had the battery in my hands. Demonstrably the "search function" method provided what I needed and in a timelier manner than the method you chose.

                    It took a little over 3 minutes to make that video. I can't say at to whether that "tutorial" is the first or only one addressing the use of the site's search function but I'm more than happy to contribute to the site here in a meaningful way when I can.. That function of the site here was important enough to be mentioned in TC's "Welcome New Members:Please Read This FIRST before Posting!" sticky.

                    http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18450


                    I chose to use your "quest" for a sealed maintenance free battery as a vehicle for encouraging not just you, but everyone to utilize a service that I used and will continue to use because of its effectiveness. The video was just a "visual" method to show how fast and effective it REALLY is as opposed to the way some others think/say it does. That's how I had the time to make the video: by making efficient use of the time/resources I have.

                    I'd encourage you to again make use of the search function before you pose a "question".

                    I'd also urge to to read (or Re-read if needed...) TC's sticky and pay particular attention to the section entitled: Forum Rules. In that section you will find guidelines for what NOT to post along with a description of the "Moderator" rights to edit or delete posts when appropriate.

                    It's just my opinion but I'd feel it appropriate to ask the moderators here to delete everything in your second post past the word "thx".

                    Then my response would have been:

                    "No. No....Thank You. Glad to be of help."
                    Last edited by Ken Talbot; 07-28-2011, 09:29 PM. Reason: quoted inflammatory post removed by moderator

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                    • #11
                      I'm not going to quote all that, but I have to say I agree in large part with Larry. Not completely, as I've often had trouble finding what I was looking for searching, BUT, if doing so it's generally good to say that you have searched and couldn't find what you were looking for, then at least everyone knows you tried first.

                      Then again, you say that the search results were just a bunch of opinions, where guess what, that's still all you have. No statistics, no numbers, no hard facts, just opinions based on experience we have had or been exposed to with others with different batteries types and such. So I'm not seeing that you have really gained anything really, other than getting yet another round of opinions that are a bit fresher, with information on batteries that may not have been available back in the past.
                      Cy

                      1980 XS1100G (Brutus) w/81H Engine
                      Duplicolor Mirage Paint Job (Purple/Green)
                      Vetter Windjammer IV
                      Vetter hard bags & Trunk
                      OEM Luggage Rack
                      Jardine Spaghetti 4-2 exhaust system
                      Spade Fuse Box
                      Turn Signal Auto Cancel Mod
                      750 FD Mod
                      TC Spin on Oil Filter Adapter (temp removed)
                      XJ1100 Front Footpegs
                      XJ1100 Shocks

                      I was always taught to respect my elders, but it keeps getting harder to find one.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Elevener View Post
                        "at least the Shorai batteries last longer" How would you know? They havent even been around long and continued to sell a battery they knew had problems.

                        I use a deka etx 18l agm ( also sold as Big Crank) . I have a Bikemaster gel in another bike. No acid means no leak or maintenance. I sometimes wonder what personal experience people have when recommending or condemning products.
                        In addition to their literature, I'm basing it on my experience with similar technologies. Battery technologies are moving forward all the time, and getting better all the time. From what I can see, and from my reading, this type of battery is the future of vehicle batteries, unless they come out with something even more efficient. We are getting closer and closer my friends to what I like to call the batacitor. This is a device with the best of a capacitor and a battery. Hold a charge almost forever, charge as fast as the conductors can handle, and discharge as fast, as many times as you wish, voltage stable from full charge to almost 0 charge. When we achieve this we will have true electrical storage that works, and electric vehicles would IMHO be practical since you could charge one in like 10 minutes. We're a long way from there so far at least it appears we are, but who knows when a breakthrough will happen.
                        Cy

                        1980 XS1100G (Brutus) w/81H Engine
                        Duplicolor Mirage Paint Job (Purple/Green)
                        Vetter Windjammer IV
                        Vetter hard bags & Trunk
                        OEM Luggage Rack
                        Jardine Spaghetti 4-2 exhaust system
                        Spade Fuse Box
                        Turn Signal Auto Cancel Mod
                        750 FD Mod
                        TC Spin on Oil Filter Adapter (temp removed)
                        XJ1100 Front Footpegs
                        XJ1100 Shocks

                        I was always taught to respect my elders, but it keeps getting harder to find one.

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                        • #13
                          Yeah but in 12 replys Im the only one who ANSWERED his question.

                          "looking for a good sealed maintenance free battery. thanks "

                          And just because one complains I dont see why mods delete. A mod answered here before deleting and presumedly read the thread before he answered.

                          And everybody has given their opinion. not real life experience.
                          Trapped in time. Surrounded by evil. Low on gas.

                          1980 XS1100G 1179 kit, Tkat brace, progressive springs & shocks, jardine spaghetti, Mikes coils, Geezer's rectifier

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                          • #14
                            And everybody has given their opinion. not real life experience./////real life experience: Venturer 1100 going on 6.5yrs. with an Interstate wet-cell. Only been "killed" and re-charged once. Honda ST going on 7yrs. with an Exide wet-cell. Only been killed and re-charged once. Both still in the bikes and recently load tested, exceeded amp load and time and still held 11V. BTW, don't own a batt.tender, and the above statements show why.......any questions?
                            81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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                            • #15
                              In Saskatoon a bike battery has to sit unused for 5 months each winter.
                              My 12 point battery storage plan has been whittled down to
                              Step 1) Remove the battery in the fall
                              Step 2) Toss it
                              Step 3) Buy a new one in the spring
                              Fred Hill, S'toon
                              XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
                              "The Flying Pumpkin"

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