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  • A dab of rubber grease or oil on the enrichener seals, throttle shaft seals, and fuel tees would be a good thing, but otherwise everything should be dry...
    Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

    '78E original owner - resto project
    '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
    '82 XJ rebuild project
    '80SG restified, red SOLD
    '79F parts...
    '81H more parts...

    Other current bikes:
    '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
    '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
    '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
    Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
    Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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    • No sealer or lube of any kind. I found that after I assemble everything, I have to trim the inside of the bowl gaskets so the floats don't catch.
      1979 XS1100F (runnin the wheels off it)
      1979 XS650 (ran the wheels off it)
      1976 CB550F (ran the wheels off it)

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      • I've heard a bit of baby oil on the diaphram slides is all. I didn't use it, seems like it might slide smoother with some oil tho. Again just what I've heard.
        1980 XS1100SG "Black Mamba" 28K
        1979 XS1100F 33k (Current Project)
        1981 XS1100H "Blue Balls" (Crashed and under repair )

        1978 XS1100E "Partsy"

        Work Hard, Play Harder!

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        • I got new idle mixture screws and when comparing them to my old ones they're a bit shorter. so are the springs that came with them. I dropped one in and the threads do screw in. I'm just wondering if i should use the old ones or the new ones? or does it matter?
          Here's a picture.
          1980 XS11G 22XXX miles.

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          • anyone? really wanna get this project moving along.
            1980 XS11G 22XXX miles.

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            • Trey,

              You can use the old ones if ou use the new little o-rings and washers (provided they fit properly). Either one should work fine though.
              Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

              When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.

              81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
              80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


              Previously owned
              93 GSX600F
              80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
              81 XS1100 Special
              81 CB750 C
              80 CB750 C
              78 XS750

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              • so even though they're shorter i can still use them? that great because if i use them i wont have to feel like i wasted money haha. thanks.
                1980 XS11G 22XXX miles.

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                • Originally posted by CatatonicBug View Post
                  Sure! The carbs aren't super complicated, except for the fact that they HATE being dirty. Take your time and follow the instructions. If you really get into a jam, I'm only 2 hours away. Would make for a nice day trip!

                  This kind of offer is what makes this community so great! not only giving advice but he gives you an offer for some help. GREAT GUY!
                  [B Bone stock 1981 SX1100LH 1,430 miles bringing back to life, slowly but surely.
                  1973 RT3][/B]

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                  • I don't think the new ones will work... the length of the mixture screw is kind of a big deal. If the tip doesn't reach the hole then the mix will have too much air. The tip of the mixture screw needs to fill that hole so you can back it out to the appropriate mixture. Unless I am missing something the new ones are too short and won't reach the opening in the carb body leaving you with no way to adjust your mixture at idle and will produce a lean mixture and an extra high idle.
                    1980 XS1100SG "Black Mamba" 28K
                    1979 XS1100F 33k (Current Project)
                    1981 XS1100H "Blue Balls" (Crashed and under repair )

                    1978 XS1100E "Partsy"

                    Work Hard, Play Harder!

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                    • Those mixture screws control the fuel not the air. And it matters not how long they are as long as they can get down far enough to block the hole, and I think the stock ones don't screw all the way in anyways, these may just screw in further. That said, the later style units are more prone to stripping the slot in the top than breaking off the tip being more blunt than the early model screws, so can be re-used, and it's really just the o-ring that needs to be replace although replacing the screw isn't a bad idea either.

                      But even if it won't screw all the way down, if it will get down far enough to get the right mixture, it don't matter, but you would have to try.
                      Cy

                      1980 XS1100G (Brutus) w/81H Engine
                      Duplicolor Mirage Paint Job (Purple/Green)
                      Vetter Windjammer IV
                      Vetter hard bags & Trunk
                      OEM Luggage Rack
                      Jardine Spaghetti 4-2 exhaust system
                      Spade Fuse Box
                      Turn Signal Auto Cancel Mod
                      750 FD Mod
                      TC Spin on Oil Filter Adapter (temp removed)
                      XJ1100 Front Footpegs
                      XJ1100 Shocks

                      I was always taught to respect my elders, but it keeps getting harder to find one.

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                      • Okay so we think the shorter ones are safe to use. Now this, and it may be a silly question but in which order do the parts go on the screw? Is it Spring, washer, rubber ring? or spring, rubber ring, washer?
                        1980 XS11G 22XXX miles.

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                        • If I remember correctly, the o ring goes in first, then the washer, then the spring. Make sure they are lined up good and not cocked/crooked. Once I had it backwards and the spring pushed into the oring and chewed it up good.
                          Hi, my name is George & I'm a twisty addict!

                          80G (Green paint(PO idea))
                          The Green Monster
                          K&N A/F, TC's fuse block, '81 oil cooler, TC's homemade 4-2 w/Mac Mufflers, Raptor 660 ACCT
                          Got him in '04.
                          bald tire & borrowing parts

                          80SG (Black w/red emblems & calipers)
                          Scarlet
                          K&N A/F, TC's fuse block, WJ5, Shoei bags, Raptor 660 ACCT.
                          Got her in '11
                          Ready for the twisties!

                          81H (previously CPMaynard's)
                          Hugo
                          Full Venturer, Indigo Blue with B/W painted tank.
                          Cold weather ride

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                          • Put the spring on the mix screw first, followed by the metal washer, then the rubber o-ring last. The oring is the seal, the washer keeps it flat and the spring adds pressure to keep it seated.
                            Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

                            When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.

                            81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
                            80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


                            Previously owned
                            93 GSX600F
                            80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
                            81 XS1100 Special
                            81 CB750 C
                            80 CB750 C
                            78 XS750

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                            • Originally posted by DGXSER View Post
                              Put the spring on the mix screw first, followed by the metal washer, then the rubber o-ring last. The oring is the seal, the washer keeps it flat and the spring adds pressure to keep it seated.
                              You after i posted i thought "what an idiot" thanks though.
                              1980 XS11G 22XXX miles.

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                              • One more thought, has the Petcock been cleaned and rebuilt. Mine had set for some time and at first worked then started leaking. Then the carbs that I had cleaned to a pristine factory appearance adjusted and syncronized started flooding out. Seems trash from the petcocks went right into the carb's. So if the petcocks have not been addressed and you have spent all this time energy and moneyYou still need to clean and/or repair the petcocks. I'd hate to see you go threw this and do a great job and then a little trash destroy your confidence.
                                To fix the problem one should not make more assumptions than the minimum needed.

                                Rodan
                                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khm6...liHntN91DHjHiS
                                1980 G Silverbird
                                Original Yamaha Fairfing and Bags
                                1198 Overbore kit
                                Grizzly 660 ACCT
                                Barnett Clutch Springs
                                R1 Clutch Fiber Plates
                                122.5 Main Jets
                                ACCT Mod
                                Mac 4-2 Flare Tips
                                Antivibe Bar ends
                                Rear trunk add-on
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