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    Well, I broke the damn glass on my headlight and they're not easy to find. So i was thinking...will a Special headlight fit the ears on a Standard? And, what about the Special's adjuster bracket, will that fit the lower tree? Seems the special buckets are easier to find, so this conversion may be permanent.

    Anyone ever done this? please chime in.
    Former owner, but I have NO PARTS LEFT!

  • #2
    im sure it you can make it work, but may require some Irish inginuity

    im sure someone around on this site has an extra glass (Andreas???) for relatively little $$$....
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    • #3
      I have a special headlight on my standard. I guess you could make the bucket work on the standard ears but don't know how well it would work. The adjustment bracket does not work for me, I am going to have to fab something up so that I can adjust it and so that it will stay in place. If you decide to use special ears they do need about a half inch cut off of the tubes because the tree to tree measurement on the standard is a little shorter.
      Nathan
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      • #4
        Originally posted by TomRodgers View Post
        im sure it you can make it work, but may require some Irish inginuity

        im sure someone around on this site has an extra glass (Andreas???) for relatively little $$$....
        Nope, Andreas doesn't have.
        Former owner, but I have NO PARTS LEFT!

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        • #5
          I'm dealing with a special headlight on standard forks right now....

          While I'm using special ears also, I looked at the alternatives. The bucket fits easily, you just need to use the rubber bushings from the standard. The adjuster bracket is another story; it will be easier IMO to just make one rather than try to mod the special part.

          Give some thought to building an 'adaptor' so you can use a car-type square headlight. They're the same size, you just need a means of mounting it in the bucket. I think if you picked up a headlight bucket assembly from a boneyard (look at '80 GM products, maybe a S-10), cut the back out of it, then spot-welded or pop-riveted some brackets to it to mimic the OEM headlight, you could have a cheap, effective replacement...
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          • #6
            http://us.ebid.net/for-sale/78-yamah...t-41862706.htm
            Nathan
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            Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

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            • #7
              Thanks for finding that, Nate. But, it's a very early sealed beam unit, and when it blows I'd never find another. I like the convenience of the separate H4 bulb in the later fixture.
              Former owner, but I have NO PARTS LEFT!

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              • #8
                Really? I can find the round sealed beam units at any auto parts store. About $11 each. Are the rectangle ones that much harder to find?
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                • #9
                  'Bug, the standard square headlights have the mounting brackets attached directly to the headlight shell; so there's no using anything off-the-shelf, it has to be a OEM headlight for a bolt-in...
                  Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

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                  '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
                  '82 XJ rebuild project
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                  '79F parts...
                  '81H more parts...

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                  '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
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                  • #10
                    Kinda figured you wouldnt want the sealed beam, but ya never know!
                    Nathan
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                    1978 XS1100E
                    K&N Filter
                    #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
                    OEM Exhaust
                    ATK Fork Brace
                    LED Dash lights
                    Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

                    Green Monster Coils
                    SS Brake Lines
                    Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

                    In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

                    Theodore Roosevelt

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by TomRodgers View Post
                      im sure it you can make it work, but may require some Irish inginuity - - -
                      Hi Tom,
                      dunno about Irish Inginuity but here's a British Bodge:-
                      Use a longer bolt and a stack of washers each side to fill the gap between the Special headlight shell and the Standard ears.
                      Most likely need to cut up an old license plate to make the tilt piece.
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                      • #12
                        The sealed beam "lens assy" for the 78 is still a good part number, 2H7-84320-60-00 $25 at the yam dealer if you need to go there. I have the headlamp from a 1980 honda cb1000 on my 78E (just don't like the square headlamp motif and the cb's was free).
                        Therefore I have the original headlamp, complete, off my bike less the mounting hardware I used for the replacement, but including the lower adjuster bracket. If you (or anyone else) wants it, all I want for it is the cost of shipping it to you.
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                        • #13
                          I have a special lamp on my 78 with special ears no issues and I have a brand new laser cut lens too
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                          • #14
                            Special headlight on a standard

                            Hey Garth. When you put the special headlight and ears on a standard, did you have to modify the ears?

                            XS1100G

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ManagerMike View Post
                              The sealed beam "lens assy" for the 78 is still a good part number, 2H7-84320-60-00 $25 at the yam dealer if you need to go there. I have the headlamp from a 1980 honda cb1000 on my 78E (just don't like the square headlamp motif and the cb's was free).
                              Therefore I have the original headlamp, complete, off my bike less the mounting hardware I used for the replacement, but including the lower adjuster bracket. If you (or anyone else) wants it, all I want for it is the cost of shipping it to you.
                              managermike, is your headlight the sealed beam type? If not, I'm intereted.
                              Former owner, but I have NO PARTS LEFT!

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